Oh, and here's me, gloating over my superior performance: http://imgur.com/K047b ;^D
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]>wrote: > Actually, I've been using Premiere and After Effects for video > editing/effects/rendering, along with FLV conversion tools, photoshop, > flash, etc. As noted, my performance is noticeably faster than the two > Macbook Pros and regular Mac Pro tower. > > Here's the Macbook Pros we use: http://imgur.com/HKX95 > > <http://imgur.com/HKX95>Here's the Mac Pro tower: http://imgur.com/myXPH > > <http://imgur.com/myXPH>Here's my Gateway box: http://imgur.com/qgKca (Note > the Apple sticker they jokingly stuck on my tower, with my own "I <3 > Windows" text handwritten over it). > > For all the inefficiencies you cite, they don't seem to manifest in > production. I smoke all of their machines, and have proven this in > benchmarking, which is why I'm still allowed to have a PC box in a room full > of Macs. > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Ian Pollard <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> Chris, >> >> Core inefficiency is the bugbear of rendering and multitasking. Often >> (very often) you don't use all the cores, which means the computer's >> potential power is sitting there untapped whilst one or two cores bottleneck >> and make you wonder why you bothered paying for four/six/eight of them. Mac >> Pros (workstations) recognise when this is happening and milk out extra >> clock speed for the busy cores (e.g. the 4 core Mac Pros dynamically boost >> busy cores to 3.6Ghz and the 8 core model boost to 3.33Ghz). >> >> Bus speed on your RAM isn't everything, either. A Mac Pro's architecture >> is quite different to a PC, for example they have faster access to data >> stored in memory because the processor is connected directly to the memory. >> Thus the actual speed is about 40% faster when you compare like-for-like bus >> speeds. Also there's a direct pipeline between the two processors (on the >> eight core model), rather than running between an independent I/O bus. >> >> High clock speed and RAM on your video card won't help you unless you're >> rendering 3D. For Photoshop, Quark, etc, you can use a $50 graphics card so >> long as it outputs at the resolution you want and number of monitors you >> want. All your load is on CPU and system memory. >> >> Mac Pros are pretty serious in terms of their spec if you're chasing >> numbers (8 Xeon cores @ 2.93Ghz, 32GB RAM, etc), but even with a common >> Intel processor it's apples and oranges if you ask me. >> >> Ian >> >> >> >> >> >> 2010/1/5 Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> >> >> Hey Ian, is there anything in the Mac world which sports real high end >>> specs? I ask out of ignorance, as I haven't seen any true high end systems, >>> but they could certainly exist. For instance, I'm writing from my x64 Vista >>> box which has an Intel Quad Core (2.66 on a 1333 Mhz bus), with 8Gb of DDR3, >>> a 1.5Gb Nvidia video card, and dual 1Tb HDD's. I'm doing a lot of multimedia >>> rendering, so I need the juice. I'm the only PC box in a room full of new (> >>> 6 mos) Macbook Pros, and none of them have anywhere near the performance as >>> my Vista box when running intensive apps, multitasking, or just straight >>> "from click to production" tests. >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Ian Pollard <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Why go for Windows at all? >>>> >>>> If you're a writer, a Macbook Pro running Snow Leopard is an excellent >>>> choice. From a hardware perspective there's some things you'll probably >>>> appreciate: >>>> >>>> - The screen is LED not LCD, so text and images are much crisper. >>>> - Backlit keys with an automatic low light sensor. >>>> - By far the most tactile keyboard. >>>> >>>> From an operating system/software perspective: >>>> >>>> - Time >>>> Machine<http://www.apple.com/macosx/what-is-macosx/time-machine.html>... >>>> the best backup system, bar none. >>>> - A built-in research tool that pools results from multiple sources >>>> (dictionary, thesaurus, Wikipedia, and translations) in a single >>>> window<http://images.appleinsider.com/leopard-preview-071004-7.png> >>>> . >>>> - Much better writing >>>> software<http://www.marinersoftware.com/sitepage.php?page=127>than you can >>>> get for Windows. >>>> - If you're heavy on research, >>>> Spotlight<http://www.apple.com/macosx/what-is-macosx/spotlight.html>will >>>> save you days. >>>> - When you combine Spotlight with >>>> Exposé<http://www.apple.com/macosx/what-is-macosx/expose.html>, >>>> you'll wonder why you put up with Windows for so long. >>>> - No need for anti-virus software. >>>> >>>> I use Vista 64-bit on my development machine at work, but only because >>>> we're a .NET software developer. I run Windows 7 Ultimate on my MacBook >>>> (dual-boot with Snow Leopard using Bootcamp) and, whilst it is a little >>>> faster than Vista, the performance increases have been greatly exaggerated. >>>> It is also significantly slower than Snow Leopard on the same hardware. >>>> >>>> Ian >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. >> >> >--
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