We regularly seem to provide crooks with more human rights than
victims.

On 24 Jan, 04:24, Dinesh <[email protected]> wrote:
> Every child coming in the world, at a very early age (when the child
> is not aware what the hell is going on) is already someone.
>
> Every child is given a name (except maybe in some tribal communities
> where the child gets the name possibly by the looks/ excellence in a
> particular area etc)
> and many other small things like rituals that force it in some mold.
> This mold can be discarded, but is seldom done fully.
>
> On Jan 22, 3:17 pm, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Forgive me my fellow Eye'ers, I obviously have this stuck in my head
> > at the moment and it needs to be addressed.
>
> > On GMTV this morning we had an ex burglar talking about what he feels
> > over the initial arrest, sentancing and subsiquent reduction of
> > prision term for a Mr Munir Hussain (http://www.gm.tv/articles/44308-
> > burglars-prosecution-jailed.html).  Who chased burglars out of his
> > house and administered to one of them a bloody good hiding.
>
> > The ex burglar was talking about choice vs instinctual behaviour,
> > whilst unsupprisingly the majority of calls, texts and emails into
> > GMTV on this subject were all for a lessening of the law which
> > restricts us to 'reasonable force' in defence of our homes or loved
> > ones.  To my mind a restriction from 'reasonable force' can only mean
> > allowing 'unreasonable force' so I guess you can say that I do not
> > agree with this one at all.
>
> > However although I'm sure that we will get into that one here, this is
> > not the point I wish to make at this time.
>
> > Back to choice then.  I think the ex-burglar correct, even when it
> > comes to acting instinctivly to protect your loved ones, I would
> > suppose that my instinct if I where to find myself in Mr Hussain's
> > predicterment, would be differant from Mr Hussains.
>
> > The burglars fleed his property and he choose to chase them out,
> > rather than seeing if his family were all okay.
>
> > Okay I guess I am I and he is he, I cannot know the kind of person he
> > is nor what his lifes experiances have been upto this point.  Which is
> > getting towards the root of my concerns now.
>
> > A quick potted history of the life of Lee, in order to understand my
> > next thought I think.
>
> > As a child I, along with the rest of my male siblings, was beaten a
> > lot by my father, it has certianly left it's mark on my and goes a
> > great deal to explaining certian facets of my pysche(as you would
> > expect), the biggest off shoot of this is how I think about the effect
> > of my actions on other people before I choose to act.
>
> > As  a child getting a beating by a perant hurts, emotionaly and
> > physicaly.  So I retain the memory of how I felt at the time, and ask
> > myself, this question:
>
> > If I act that way towards another person am I not engaging in the very
> > same actions that hurt me so much?
> > The answer is of course yes.
>
> > Now having realised this I must further ask, retaining the memory of
> > how all of the felt and the mark it has left upon me, why would I wish
> > to inflict the same upon others?
> > The answer is I cannot do so and remain unhypocritical.
>
> > These questions and answers I feel are based on more than my lifes
> > experiance, they are cold rationality in action, that is of course I
> > realise that my perception is skewed because of my experiances, yet at
> > the same time I do not think my answers irrational.
>
> > So back to My Hussian.  After being tied up and beaten, and
> > experiancing how that felt, the rational choice to make (according to
> > me) is to ensure that his family are all good, that any injuries get
> > seen to that any emotional or pshcological damage is restricted.  To
> > my mind to seek instant redress and to 'do unto others as they have
> > done unto you' seems illogical, unhumane, and even worse it does make
> > you into the very thing that you are trieing to protect your family
> > against.
>
> > Choices?  Ummm can we choose our belifes?  I don't know, I suspect
> > not.  Can we choose how we behave?  Yes yes of course we can.

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