On 22 Jan, 10:17, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > Forgive me my fellow Eye'ers, I obviously have this stuck in my head > at the moment and it needs to be addressed. > > On GMTV this morning we had an ex burglar talking about what he feels > over the initial arrest, sentancing and subsiquent reduction of > prision term for a Mr Munir Hussain (http://www.gm.tv/articles/44308- > burglars-prosecution-jailed.html). Who chased burglars out of his > house and administered to one of them a bloody good hiding. > > The ex burglar was talking about choice vs instinctual behaviour, > whilst unsupprisingly the majority of calls, texts and emails into > GMTV on this subject were all for a lessening of the law which > restricts us to 'reasonable force' in defence of our homes or loved > ones. To my mind a restriction from 'reasonable force' can only mean > allowing 'unreasonable force' so I guess you can say that I do not > agree with this one at all. > > However although I'm sure that we will get into that one here, this is > not the point I wish to make at this time. > > Back to choice then. I think the ex-burglar correct, even when it > comes to acting instinctivly to protect your loved ones, I would > suppose that my instinct if I where to find myself in Mr Hussain's > predicterment, would be differant from Mr Hussains. > > The burglars fleed his property and he choose to chase them out, > rather than seeing if his family were all okay. > > Okay I guess I am I and he is he, I cannot know the kind of person he > is nor what his lifes experiances have been upto this point. Which is > getting towards the root of my concerns now. > > A quick potted history of the life of Lee, in order to understand my > next thought I think. > > As a child I, along with the rest of my male siblings, was beaten a > lot by my father, it has certianly left it's mark on my and goes a > great deal to explaining certian facets of my pysche(as you would > expect), the biggest off shoot of this is how I think about the effect > of my actions on other people before I choose to act. > > As a child getting a beating by a perant hurts, emotionaly and > physicaly. So I retain the memory of how I felt at the time, and ask > myself, this question: > > If I act that way towards another person am I not engaging in the very > same actions that hurt me so much? > The answer is of course yes. > > Now having realised this I must further ask, retaining the memory of > how all of the felt and the mark it has left upon me, why would I wish > to inflict the same upon others? > The answer is I cannot do so and remain unhypocritical. > > These questions and answers I feel are based on more than my lifes > experiance, they are cold rationality in action, that is of course I > realise that my perception is skewed because of my experiances, yet at > the same time I do not think my answers irrational. > > So back to My Hussian. After being tied up and beaten, and > experiancing how that felt, the rational choice to make (according to > me) is to ensure that his family are all good, that any injuries get > seen to that any emotional or pshcological damage is restricted. To > my mind to seek instant redress and to 'do unto others as they have > done unto you' seems illogical, unhumane, and even worse it does make > you into the very thing that you are trieing to protect your family > against. > > Choices? Ummm can we choose our belifes? I don't know, I suspect > not. Can we choose how we behave? Yes yes of course we can.
How do you reconcile that conclusion with the Guru Granth Sahib's statement: Everyone is subject to His Command; no one is beyond His Command. O Nanak, one who understands His Command, does not speak in ego. (that's lines 15-16 of the 1st page!!) Because, in my mind, when you say 'we', you are speaking from a standpoint of ego. When, in truth: Cogito, ergo Deus est! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
