Well I'll not argue what you said and what you did not. It is a good point you make though about divinity and proof or lack of. Agian though not one that I readily agree with.
If we use morality as an example of this 'social truth' you speak of, we can see that morality changes form time to time, and place to place. Is this because morality does not exists or os ot because our understanding of what is a good and a bad action changes? I think we will both agree to the later. So it is with spirtuality. Our understanding of wha On 27 Jan, 15:40, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > I never said they didn't challenge or change, but replacing one > religion or dogma with another counts as much as swapping one rotten > fruit for another. That point though, is yet more proof of the lack of > divinity involved. The more people learn, the less the old dogma works > because there is only social truth involved. If a god had inspired > religions, the texts would stand for all time and be interpreted the > same way. or else god changes, which means he feels that he used to be > less right, which means he is not divine... > > On Jan 27, 5:14 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Sorry Fidds ol buddy ol pal, but you are quite wrong you know. > > > A quick scan of the history of just one religion, lets just choose > > Christianity as you seem to dislike it the most, shows that indeed > > dogma has been chalenged over the years, and quiet frequently too. > > New religions spring up as a result of people examining dogma and > > finding it wanting. Like ANY sphere of knowledge 'spirtual' knowledge > > grows, changes and adapts as people learn more, to claim the opposite > > is at worst a lie and at best shows ignorance of the subject. > > > As to the rest of your rot, I must say that I dispise this > > generalistic asurtion the relgiougous are so because of a lack of > > critical thought. That too is quite wrong. > > > On 25 Jan, 14:44, islah05 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > to blame religion for stifling rationalization is totally untrue and > > > ignorance. Islam is the addeen of honouring the importance of > > > reasoning and yet warning its limitation and short coming. The mission > > > of intelect and reasoning is to explore the explicit meaning of the > > > revelation and at the same time subdue to the its limitation. > > > > On Jan 25, 1:11 pm, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Very simply: if one didn't believe or profess belief in the current > > > > cult, one died and therefore didn't effectively pass their genes on. > > > > After billions killed in the name of islam, xtianity, and other cults, > > > > is it really a wonder that so many believe without question? Genes > > > > that promoted critical thinking were removed from the pool by violence > > > > and murder. > > > > I wonder why so many disbelieve. Is it because the natural tendency of > > > > humanity is to think and since so many religions that murder thinkers > > > > are no longer allowed to kill them? Yes. > > > > Well into the 20th century, theists like hitler (christian), the kkk > > > > (christian), zionists (jewish, christian), "palestinians (muslim)," > > > > pat robertsons and ilk( christian), witch hunters in africa that burn, > > > > torture, and murder children for increased fame(christian, muslim), > > > > etc., have killed or are killing non-believers. Unsurprisingly, > > > > unbelievers are rare where they may come in contact with these groups. > > > > Fortunately, compared with the last 2k years, these murders are > > > > isolated, focused, and rare. They will not affect the overall human > > > > gene pool the way that religion has for so long. > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYetSghlLA0 > > > > > If people had been allowed to think and challenge dogma, the European > > > > dark ages wouldn't have happened. For proof, look to the arabs. They > > > > began as a movement that enjoyed and promoted thought and reason. They > > > > only fell into the current sad state because of close-minded > > > > fundamentalists that effectively erased the gains that occurred during > > > > their ascendancy. Al-Ghazali began as a person that loved intelligence > > > > and yet he started the islamic movement demanding that all things > > > > philosophical prove the existence of god or be banned. A sad case of > > > > religious corruption causing an intelligent mind to rot. > > > > > For those that wish to ask why this is true, please learn what a > > > > textbook is. Water is wet, everything living needs food, and we are > > > > apes. These are all true as is the fact that religion requires > > > > obedience.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
