I do not live in a black and white world, I leave that for theists. Communism is not something that offends me, people that adore it unquestioningly do. I dare you to find where I claim to be a democracy supporter. I never spoke at all with an opinion about bush and Iraq because it wasn't the topic. Notice how nearly everyone else did and yet I didn't tell them to stfu like I was told!
Strawmen are common for theists, try a different fallacy for a while. On Jan 29, 6:25 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > Fid Nothing is black and white as you want it to be and portray in your > opinions, I have read this running through several of your posts. every > thing has to be black and white being relatively common in the USA, sod your > view does not surprise me at all. All belief systems have both positive and > negative aspects, including the atheistic beliefs. > > Governments are the same way, you want to point to how bad communism is, boy > fid you would have been a great follower of Senator McCarthy, and he did a > tremendous amount of damage to the USA with his attitude harming some very > very important innocent people with his hatred of communism. Communism does > have some valid good points just like democracy has its bad points making it > a very weak unjust system of government, rewarding the dishonest and crooked > like communism does. > > I do not think you want to get into the international laws the USA violated > getting into the Bush-Iraq war, oh my gosh shades of Stalin and Hitler. > Allan > > > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:40 PM, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > I never said they didn't challenge or change, but replacing one > > religion or dogma with another counts as much as swapping one rotten > > fruit for another. That point though, is yet more proof of the lack of > > divinity involved. The more people learn, the less the old dogma works > > because there is only social truth involved. If a god had inspired > > religions, the texts would stand for all time and be interpreted the > > same way. or else god changes, which means he feels that he used to be > > less right, which means he is not divine... > > > On Jan 27, 5:14 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Sorry Fidds ol buddy ol pal, but you are quite wrong you know. > > > > A quick scan of the history of just one religion, lets just choose > > > Christianity as you seem to dislike it the most, shows that indeed > > > dogma has been chalenged over the years, and quiet frequently too. > > > New religions spring up as a result of people examining dogma and > > > finding it wanting. Like ANY sphere of knowledge 'spirtual' knowledge > > > grows, changes and adapts as people learn more, to claim the opposite > > > is at worst a lie and at best shows ignorance of the subject. > > > > As to the rest of your rot, I must say that I dispise this > > > generalistic asurtion the relgiougous are so because of a lack of > > > critical thought. That too is quite wrong. > > > > On 25 Jan, 14:44, islah05 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > to blame religion for stifling rationalization is totally untrue and > > > > ignorance. Islam is the addeen of honouring the importance of > > > > reasoning and yet warning its limitation and short coming. The mission > > > > of intelect and reasoning is to explore the explicit meaning of the > > > > revelation and at the same time subdue to the its limitation. > > > > > On Jan 25, 1:11 pm, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Very simply: if one didn't believe or profess belief in the current > > > > > cult, one died and therefore didn't effectively pass their genes on. > > > > > After billions killed in the name of islam, xtianity, and other > > cults, > > > > > is it really a wonder that so many believe without question? Genes > > > > > that promoted critical thinking were removed from the pool by > > violence > > > > > and murder. > > > > > I wonder why so many disbelieve. Is it because the natural tendency > > of > > > > > humanity is to think and since so many religions that murder thinkers > > > > > are no longer allowed to kill them? Yes. > > > > > Well into the 20th century, theists like hitler (christian), the kkk > > > > > (christian), zionists (jewish, christian), "palestinians (muslim)," > > > > > pat robertsons and ilk( christian), witch hunters in africa that > > burn, > > > > > torture, and murder children for increased fame(christian, muslim), > > > > > etc., have killed or are killing non-believers. Unsurprisingly, > > > > > unbelievers are rare where they may come in contact with these > > groups. > > > > > Fortunately, compared with the last 2k years, these murders are > > > > > isolated, focused, and rare. They will not affect the overall human > > > > > gene pool the way that religion has for so long. > > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYetSghlLA0 > > > > > > If people had been allowed to think and challenge dogma, the European > > > > > dark ages wouldn't have happened. For proof, look to the arabs. They > > > > > began as a movement that enjoyed and promoted thought and reason. > > They > > > > > only fell into the current sad state because of close-minded > > > > > fundamentalists that effectively erased the gains that occurred > > during > > > > > their ascendancy. Al-Ghazali began as a person that loved > > intelligence > > > > > and yet he started the islamic movement demanding that all things > > > > > philosophical prove the existence of god or be banned. A sad case of > > > > > religious corruption causing an intelligent mind to rot. > > > > > > For those that wish to ask why this is true, please learn what a > > > > > textbook is. Water is wet, everything living needs food, and we are > > > > > apes. These are all true as is the fact that religion requires > > > > > obedience.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
