On 8 Feb, 13:30, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > And, thank > > > God, there aren't door-to-door atheists...although that would make a > > classic comedy sketch!! > > They'd be called something like 'People for Truth' and the God denial > pamphlets would be heavily laced with Communist dogma. I could > actually see something like that going on in China or N. Korea. Maybe > Vietnam as well. If religious paraphernalia is found in your home you > are quietly reported to the authorities as a possible problem. Maybe > get sent to a 're-education camp.' Somebody should do a movie. > Something appropriately dark and sinister along the lines of "A Brave > New World." > > dj
As it was an intended comedy sketch, I think 'Non-Christian Scientists' would be a better name. Or 'Normons', as opposed to Mormons. Of course, there's a strong argument for 'Dawkins' Witnesses' as well. ;-) > > > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 7 Feb, 19:03, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The measure constantly changes in regards to mocking. What you need to > >> realise is that many people do not see a difference between gods and > >> fairies. > > > They would be ignorant, then. > > >>And many people have weighed the positive and negative > >> aspects of religion and found the negative to be far greater than the > >> positive. I personally have never said that there are no positive > >> aspects, simply that the negative are active and powerful aspects > >> while the positive are passive and easily dismissed by the negative. > > > Easily dismissed by some. I wonder why? > > >> If you make an assertion -like god is real- you must expect there to > >> be opposition. Every concept has detractors. > > >> I find your complaint about atheists stating their belief at every > >> opportunity to be hilarious. You are guilty of an identical action. > >> Often, your complaint and the complaint of religion not being treated > >> nicely are interchangeable, especially among evangelical believers. It > >> generally comes down to them having the right to talk, promote, > >> discuss, and even go door to door harassing people, but complain > >> loudly whenever anyone points out that there is no evidence of their > >> belief or that specific points of belief had been disproved centuries > >> past. > > > Would you like to name a few specifics, here? That is, of things that > > have been disproven. I'm just curious as to which things. And, thank > > God, there aren't door-to-door atheists...although that would make a > > classic comedy sketch!! > > >> On Feb 7, 10:05 am, 1CellOfMany <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > Fiddler, I fear that you have misunderstood what I was saying. There > >> > are many people who do not believe in God, and are willing to discuss > >> > what they do believe about the way the world works. They are also > >> > willing to share their reasons for nor believing in God. But there > >> > are others who not only do not believe in God, but they DO believe > >> > that anyone who DOES believe in God is a fool, and they state this > >> > belief repeatedly. They also tend to belittle belief in God by > >> > comparing it to belief in fairies or some other silly thing. They > >> > also seem to believe that the effect of religion on the world has been > >> > mostly negative, and while they can supply examples of negative > >> > effects, they seem to be blind t the many positive effects that > >> > religion has had. > > >> > Now, I really don't care whether they believe these things or not, but > >> > some of these particular atheists make it a point to state their > >> > beliefs at every opportunity. It is as though they were on a crusade > >> > to stamp out religion. Now, this is a forum for discussion of ideas > >> > and beliefs. I share my thoughts and beliefs, and I try to be > >> > respectful of the thoughts and beliefs of others. When my beliefs are > >> > mocked and ridiculed in a forum like this, it is a sign that the other > >> > person is not willing to listen and to discuss things rationally. > >> > This is irritating to many of us, but it also reflects poorly on the > >> > character of the person who is doing the mocking. I am merely asking > >> > that you show as much respect for my ideas, whether you agree with > >> > them or not, as you would like me to show for your ideas. > > >> > On Feb 7, 12:38 am, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > And you are demonstrating that one word may have two intended uses. A > >> > > belief in god is not the same as a belief in the sun rising. Yes, > >> > > everyone believes something. Some of us believe in testable reality > >> > > and some of us in untestable -and often proven wrong- religions. > >> > > Though the word is the same, the use is not. Your rant had no true > >> > > point, it was only that... a rant. > > >> > > On Feb 6, 9:29 pm, 1CellOfMany <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > So, OZ, if I understand what you are saying, you *believe* that, "The > >> > > > common failure of "believers" is their inability to understand a > >> > > > simple concept: ---- Lack of belief, is not, itself, belief --- " > > >> > > > (If you don't believe that statement, then why would you make it!) > > >> > > > I find that the common failure of those who snipe at "believers" in > >> > > > the cause of atheism is their tendency to stereo-type and talk trash > >> > > > about believers. So, by your own words, you have demonstrated the > >> > > > point of my rant. > > >> > > > On Feb 6, 12:11 pm, MajorOz <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > The common failure of "believers" is their inability to understand > >> > > > > a > >> > > > > simple concept: > > >> > > > > ---- Lack of belief, is not, itself, belief --- > > >> > > > > cheers > > >> > > > > oz, learner, not believer- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. 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