On 8 Feb, 15:11, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > And yet Pat, because possibility is infinite, the possibility we > realize in the moment does change the outcome. And, our viewpoint > determines the possibility realized. Of course, as we become fully > realized, we reach the non dual point where evil, while in the state > of cause and effect acting in experience, has no effect on possibility > realized. What we feel to be choice is our ability to change our > viewpoint (or not), expand our awareness into greater possibility, and > realize the one and the many. The murder you reference is and is not > permenant, because while it is a possibility it is not the only > possiblity. Realizing the paradox reconcilles both sides of the > arguement and resolves the issue. >
Of course. Anything that exists in space-time is not permanent, insofar as it is, by definition, conditioned by the temporal aspect OF it. However, the entirety OF the continuum, which contains all that which exists within it is permanent, insofar as it exists, by definition, for all time. Besides, as I've mentioned before, in any 'murder', it is God that is both murderer and the one that is murdered. He experiences both. He's a glutton for experience and, whilst I wouldn't say that possibilities are infinite, they are well beyond countless. I proffer a spherical cube as an example of something that will never exist in the space-time continuum. We can talk about it as an abstract, as it surely exists as 'an object which is self-contradictory in definition', therefore, impossible to create an example of in reality; but, as a concept, like Flying Pink Elephants and Russell's Teapot, can be discussed at length. This is where I rely on Platonistic views that abstracts MUST have a form of existence and that implies that they must have their existence somewhere outside of time, as abstracts must be available eternally. And 'eternally' can only mean outside of the space-time continuum. Which is why I lean towards string theory, in that it is the only theory that gives us more places than those we can, currently, detect. > On Feb 8, 9:05 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On 4 Feb, 11:43, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > So what is the greatest evil then? > > > > The greatest evil is taking choice from somebody. However you perform > > > such an action, by killing, by enslaving, by physical force. The key > > > here is choice. > > > > Even our children understand this, and can get highly upset when > > > tasked with something they have no wish to do. > > > > Agree, disagree, why? > > > Of course I disagree...and you know why. You only THINK you have > > choices. The continuum shows differently. Science stands with me on > > this. If you truly believe that you have freedom of choice in a cause- > > and-effect universe, you're allowing yourself to be duped. Please, > > don't take that personally, as you know I would say it to anyone who > > said such a thing. Our children understand what we instruct them. I > > was instructed by some teachers and my father, who knew that there was > > a catch involved in Special Relativity. Children will remain children > > until they grow up and face the facts. The truth of the space-time > > continuum has nothing whatsoever to do with what I wish it to be. All > > my wishes are but events in it. And I truly wish that people would > > face the facts and understand just this one aspect of reality; for, if > > they did, they'd be a million steps closer to the One. If I get upset > > because my father tells me to mow the lawn, that's just not anything > > to get upset about. To do so would be childish. It's a FAR different > > thing to take someone's life. The balance, in that case, is left to > > God. And, personally, I believe that, for every action there is an > > equal and opposite reaction. That would mean that, in the case of > > murder, the person who murders gives up their afterlife (or, rather, > > exists in a state wherein they would rather not). But, of course, > > there's a greater scope in that, if a 'murder' occurs, then it had to > > be the will of the One--and who can fight that? We are agents of the > > Lord and do His bidding whether or NOT we realise that. The space- > > time continuum is a permanent record of all things that are done (down > > to the quantum level!) and it is by means of that permanent record > > that our hands will testify against us (or for us, if and when we do > > good). Apologies, once again, to Ian, for didactics.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
