No, I just refuse to have a drink with those I regard as uncivil,
disagreements or not. Temporarily though, without making any
exception, until they demonstrate their civil side.

I disagree with ALL exclusive, non - inclusive and extreme ideologies,
and their ideologues. There now, the litmus strips are cast abroad !

On Feb 9, 1:43 am, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote:
> > What you, as we all here, are expected to do is to say what you have
> > to ... your idea or suggestion, your belief or fact, or your comment
> > on that of others. In a civil and tempered manner.
>
> Perhaps the same should be said to you. Unless calling people hateful
> whenever they disagree is what you consider civil.
>
> On Feb 8, 12:32 pm, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > " Seems many have been getting very touchy lately and some are coming
> > out of the woodwork with misguided attempts at defending others."
>
> > Forget about the " many " and the " some," Slip. They are not your
> > lookout and, may I point out, such concerns of yours seem hollow.
>
> > What you, as we all here, are expected to do is to say what you have
> > to ... your idea or suggestion, your belief or fact, or your comment
> > on that of others. In a civil and tempered manner.
>
> > On Feb 9, 1:00 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I have no anger friend, possibly that is a reflection of your own
> > > inner turmoil emanating from your interpretation and frustration with
> > > my post.
> > > I'm not riled, just in recognition of more religious nonsense clouding
> > > the real issues of poverty and starvation on planet earth.  Why do
> > > people waste time with religion when all they have to do is stop
> > > living in denial and take action.
>
> > > It's not any one religion, its all.  The xtians tell me "the bible
> > > say's that we will always have the poor" (Jesus quote) a totally
> > > misinterpretated scripture but nonetheless one that they will use to
> > > blindly turn away from really helping someone out of poverty.
> > > Religion has been around for thousands of years, yet its still the
> > > same facade and the garbage remains.
>
> > > Religious people are in dream land!
>
> > > That is what I mean by piling it on.  Not to be taken personally.
> > > Seems many have been getting very touchy lately and some are coming
> > > out of the woodwork with misguided attempts at defending others.
>
> > > On Feb 8, 9:26 am, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Slip, I couldn't understand the post, even if I sensed your anger. Or,
> > > > is it angst, frustration ... ?
>
> > > > What exactly are you riled about : Me, Upanishads, India, Slums,
> > > > Slumdogs, Millionaire, Slumdog Millionaire, Religion < " religious
> > > > explanation ">, Fraternity, Brotherhood  ... ! ! ! ?
>
> > > > Tell you what : I have not caused it. And, there is no way I can cure
> > > > it.
>
> > > > " ... you pile enough bullshit on top of the bullshit ..."
>
> > > > Is this revealing of a personal angst you hold against me ?  I'd have
> > > > the same advice : I have not caused it. And, there is no way I can
> > > > cure it.
>
> > > > On Feb 8, 9:51 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Yeah, and I'm so very touched by it.  Never mind the Upanishads, I'd
> > > > > rather understand how India supports slum dogs as a viable concept.  I
> > > > > find it not only disgraceful but barbaric, primitive and
> > > > > hypocritical.  The movie "Slum Dog Millionaire" tells the story.  Is
> > > > > there some religious explanation for treating people like the garbage
> > > > > they live 
> > > > > in?http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfn...
>
> > > > > Fraternity and Brotherhood?  As long as you have the right brother?
>
> > > > > I guess if you pile enough bullshit on top of the bullshit you won't
> > > > > see the bullshit, right?
>
> > > > > On Feb 7, 9:10 pm, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > How many here have read the Upanishads ? !
>
> > > > > > The two most positive aspects of religion are concepts of fraternity
> > > > > > and brotherhood, in times when most of the world were barbarian, on
> > > > > > one hand, and the practice of introspection or self - examination, 
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > the other.
>
> > > > > > On Feb 8, 2:50 am, 1CellOfMany <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > There have been many discussions here where the negative results 
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > religion have been brought up as a side issue to another 
> > > > > > > discussion.
> > > > > > > I would like to start two parallel threads here, one about the 
> > > > > > > good
> > > > > > > that religions and religious people have done in and for the 
> > > > > > > world,
> > > > > > > and the other about the bad things that have come from, and been 
> > > > > > > done
> > > > > > > because of religion.
>
> > > > > > > In this thread, lets concentrate on discussing the positive
> > > > > > > contributions of religion. The good acts, the positive results of
> > > > > > > religious teaching, and the positive things that can be learned 
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > reading the "source books" of religion, such as the Bible, the
> > > > > > > Upanishads, the Koran, and other writings that are considered 
> > > > > > > "Holy"
> > > > > > > by any religion.
>
> > > > > > > A historical time-line might also be useful, correlating the 
> > > > > > > beginning
> > > > > > > and growth of each religion to historical events and trends in the
> > > > > > > places where the religion was spread.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -

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