>Wouldn't you rather face the truth, however harsh, than to >be led down a garden path, only to discover the truth when it was too >late?
Funny, but I wonder the same thing... On Feb 9, 8:00 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > On 9 Feb, 13:32, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Naaa Pat, I can't agree with that and I'm betting that you can't > > either. > > > Of course we own stuff. I mean you would not stand back and do nothing > > if I come around to your house and started to remove your property > > under the guise of me being od and taking back from your position what > > is rightfully mine. > > I probably don't have much you'd want. The bailiff has already been > by and made a list of those things HE can take. And, if that time > comes, I won't be stopping him. Besides, the TV he takes has a blown > picture tube. The DVD player only plays about 1 in 5 DVDs. I could > go on, but the rest is a couch, 2 chairs a table and 2 bookshelves. > Oh yeah, and a car that doesn't start and, even if it DID, its gearbox > is shot. You don't seem to understand my level of penury. You can't > really take much from me and, if you took it all, it wouldn't do me > any great harm. Oh, by the way, I rent. So it's not MY house. > > > It is a hard line people like you and I must walk my freind. To live > > in a world full of duality yet realising that this is an illusion, but > > one so strong that we must treat it as truth. And in truth if you > > found people in your house taking your stuff, you would call the > > police. > > Or laugh at them for taking a TV I'd consider paying them to > remove. ;-) There's no aerial in the house, either. I'd only call > the police because it's not MY house they entered and the landlord is > a Magistrate. If worse came to worse and I had no place to sleep, I > could always kip where I work. My most treasured possessions are my > books. All of which are replaceable and/or already read/used. I've > just not got anything that I couldn't do without. Other than my > life. And, as I said, can you take that? Or, do you just move it on > to where it was going anyway? > > > As to who owns your soul. Well you and I have a sense of Self, that > > is as a seperate entity to the One, and to others of our kind. > > Yup, also a part of the illusion. we are an extension OF the One, not > separate from it. If we were separate, then He could hold no claims > TO us. > > >It may > > well be true that we don't own our selves, yet we live as if we did, > > all of our language shows this to be true, so why deny it? > > Because our science (Special Relativity) tells us we've been wrong for > a long time. Our language was based on false premisses. I know it > screws with things (especially law) but the truth is better than to > hide from it. We need to fully understand the implications of our > findings; otherwise, we are just fooling ourselves and doing that > knowingly. Wouldn't you rather face the truth, however harsh, than to > be led down a garden path, only to discover the truth when it was too > late? > > > > > On 9 Feb, 13:19, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 8 Feb, 17:21, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Yeah, I've been mugged before, at knife point. And was happy to hand > > > > > over all the money I had. Tell me, when you die, can you take your > > > > > house with you? If not, then you didn't own it. You only possess > > > > > yourself. And, on a deeper level, even THAT is God's. > > > > > Here it is Pat, here is the passage which shows exactly what I mean by > > > > such a strong illusion you may as well claim it truth. > > > > > Of course when you are dead you no longer exist so even your body is > > > > not owned by you. Ahhhh but when you are alive, you not only posses > > > > yourself, you own your Self, and anything that you may possess long > > > > enough to own. > > > > > Semantic quibbles, shall we stop it there? > > > > No. It IS semantic quibbles. Different levels. The 'owning' of > > > oneself or one's soul is a part of the illusion as well. If the soul > > > returns to its maker, then whose soul was it? You seem to have missed > > > out the 'deeper level' aspect of the quote. My statements hold and > > > they are true; whether or not you 'feel you choose' to differ. My > > > point is that you don't own ANYTHING. God owns it ALL by virtue of > > > being it all. That's functional omnipresence.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
