Great Sagan Piece, nice find fidd or should I say nice fidd find. On Feb 23, 8:21 pm, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > But then worshipping such a god would have no meaning or purpose and > every religion thus far would be false. This is the deist attitude > btw, one that holds to god(s) being irrelevant and/or absent. > > Food for thought: > > "How is it that hardly any major religion has looked at science and > concluded, 'This is better than we thought! The universe is much > bigger than our prophets said, grander, more subtle, more elegant'? > Instead they say,'No, no, no! My god is a little god and I want him to > stay that way.' A religion, old or new, that stressed the magnificence > of the Universe as revealed by modern science might be able to draw > forth reserves of reverence and awe hardly tapped by the conventional > faiths." > > Carl Sagan > > Pale Blue Dot > > On Feb 23, 9:02 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I am largley unconcered about that one Fidds. > > > I would expect a God who grants free will, and takes no action towards > > the happening on this planet (as is my belife) to let us discover > > these sorts of things in our own time. > > > On 23 Feb, 16:01, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > You have hit on the exact problem of religion in general. It never > > > transcends the culture it is invented in. In these "divine" > > > occurrences there is never any medical knowledge beyond what is > > > already known, no technology, and linguistically identical to the > > > culture and often regarded as the only "true" language that it must be > > > read in, etc.. > > > The values of the god in question are also shockingly similar to the > > > prophets involved. A small band of unhappy Canaanites invented a god > > > that allowed them to conquer their region and put nearly everyone to > > > the sword as well as justifying the kidnap and rape of any women they > > > want. A gold-digging, illiterate teamster invented a god that allowed > > > him power and prestige, as well as pre-pubescent girls. > > > > Sadly, none of these people can invent gods that impart previously > > > unknown ideas. Can you imagine if a god did exist, and told people in > > > a book how to treat an infection? The dark ages might well have been > > > averted in Europe if not for the christians insisting that demons were > > > responsible for sickness (and elves, witches, neighbours, pagans, > > > atheists, cats, trees, etc.). Or the advances that we might have > > > enjoyed technologically if religions didn't burn the books of those > > > that came before them and murder anyone that bucks the servility > > > concept in order to invent or discover? Or how united the world would > > > be if a god's words could be read by anyone and every language and > > > people were accorded equal weight and respect? > > > > Instead, every religion is filled with the ignorant mutterings of > > > whomever invents them. Some even take a step backward when knowledge > > > available elsewhere is unknown to the "prophet" and so dismissed when > > > encountered. > > > > On Feb 23, 3:19 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > So you Atheists can of course get involded in this one, I really don't > > > > know why you should or what the interest for you would be, but do feel > > > > free. > > > > > I was thinking the other day about religion and culture. I'm somewhat > > > > worried about how to seperate the message of God from that of man. > > > > > So it suddenly struck me that any message that truely comes from God > > > > must trancend culture. > > > > > Thoughts?- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -
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