On 3 Mar, 19:10, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote:
> "And, of course, there's the possibility that fire is the simplest
> form
> of life.  It moves, it consumes, it respires, it leaves waste (ash)
> and, if you look at sparks as spores, it reproduces.  Thus the
> stories
> of Djinn being made of fire isn't all that much of a stretch if fire
> itself is the simplest form of life, why couldn't there be more
> complex forms based ON it? "- Pat
>
> Ineresting concept! Perhaps it did, in fact, give birth to much of our
> modern machine "life forms"! It would be a great new topic. Think
> Matrix!
>

Yeah, I had that concept (fire as a life form) laid on me back when I
was about 15 by a person who, now, has been a friend for over 30
years.  As far as 'The Matrix' goes, there's a way OUT of The Matrix.
Space-Time keeps you on permanent record.  Well, when I say
'permanent', I mean 'for all time'.  That's not to say that there
isn't 'eternal' existence outside of the continuum.  But that form of
existence wouldn't remove anything from the continuum of space-time.
It's the difference between 'data space' on a CPU and the 'core
memory'.  Consciousness itself is 'the bus' that rides between them.

> On Mar 3, 7:45 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 3 Mar, 00:48, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Yep, fire is the thing for me.  It has been around for thousands of
> > > years, possibly before our time here and has remained the same since
> > > our primordial beginnings.  When I sit around a fire I realize that it
> > > is the same fire that our ancient ancestors sat around.  
>
> > And, of course, there's the possibility that fire is the simplest form
> > of life.  It moves, it consumes, it respires, it leaves waste (ash)
> > and, if you look at sparks as spores, it reproduces.  Thus the stories
> > of Djinn being made of fire isn't all that much of a stretch if fire
> > itself is the simplest form of life, why couldn't there be more
> > complex forms based ON it?
>
> > >We've
> > > advanced and yet we haven't.  The earth remains the same, the stars,
> > > the cosmos, the solar system and all the events. We are just fools
> > > without regard for what is more powerful than us. So your clothes are
> > > dark and worn out and your not the fashion aficionado.  That's why the
> > > young chicks don't dig you man, your passe, out dated like some of the
> > > stuff in your fridge.  Time to throw out those rags and get you some
> > > snappy duds.  Stop being a pathetic neutralist and watch your life
> > > change before your eyes.  I think color has healing power.
>
> > > On Mar 2, 10:54 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I had forgotten fires Slipper.  Do you start many?
>
> > > > I often think TJ Hooker symbolises much that has really happened in
> > > > regard of gender relations - well not really, but I just caught 30
> > > > seconds of it switching through to the news channel.
>
> > > > The universe is beige.  This makes me suspect some property speculator
> > > > has painted it 'neutral' for a ready sale.  There is splendour in
> > > > colour once one is outside the media flow, maybe even on the Steiner
> > > > fringe.  Some animals are sensitive to a far greater range of colour
> > > > reception-creation than we are.  West Germany was the bundes republic
> > > > - their adverts are even worse than ours.  One can find more colour in
> > > > a black and white page than in that blared at us in 'primary vision'.
> > > > Colour tends to disappear in night time sniping vision.  Hard to go
> > > > back to black and white tv after a colour one, but as the Goons said,
> > > > you can't do a flock of flying elephants dropping raspberries from
> > > > 30,000 feet into bowls of whipped cream other than on the radio.  Much
> > > > more colourful.
>
> > > > Most of my clothes are dark, old and worn out.  I just don't care.
> > > > Colours are more likely to upset me than interest me (outside the lab)
> > > > - so I guess I'm a pathetic neutralist.  Next couple of hours will be
> > > > spent breaking in new shoes.  I had a grey pair once - that was
> > > > metrosexual enough for me!
>
> > > > On 2 Mar, 15:29, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Interesting.  I don't get much, if any, pleasure from colors.  Indeed,
> > > > > your mentioning of the shape of a woman's behind was revealing.
> > > > > Watching as she walks away from me in heels reminds me of how much I
> > > > > love old black and white movies.  The way women dressed and walked and
> > > > > vamped on the silver screen was awesome to behold.  Some of the sexy
> > > > > clothes business women wear now does the same thing and most business
> > > > > wear is black or gray or white anyway.  Can't get much blander then
> > > > > that.  It's all in how it hugs the curves, ain't it?
>
> > > > > Ever see one of the 'colorized' b&w movies?  Horrid.  Turner deserved
> > > > > the AOL disaster just for doing that.  And marrying Hanoi Jane.  How
> > > > > can someone so smart be so dumb?
>
> > > > > dj
>
> > > > > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > How pleasurable is it?  Unfortunately with equal pleasure I will 
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > to point out that you are wrong.  You see the sentence
> > > > > > reads ...............there has been assignments of color throughout
> > > > > > the years.......... and this is true as stated, the assignments of
> > > > > > colors with the added element of "time".  I would think post 1920's
> > > > > > fits into the realm of "throughout the years".  Therefore to 
> > > > > > indicate
> > > > > > that blue and pink were assigned to boys and girls respectively is
> > > > > > correct during the era they were in actual use.  Furthermore your
> > > > > > "colored" glasses might have caused a visual refraction resulting in
> > > > > > an ophthalmic anomaly whereby you missed the admission that I 'knew
> > > > > > there were exceptions', one of which you were so gracious to point
> > > > > > out.   A little bit of a tid bit might also show that the one 
> > > > > > sentence
> > > > > > was not and is not the foundation of the thread post, ergo: your own
> > > > > > house of cards has collapsed.
> > > > > > But don't worry mate, it looks like you have dug yourself out of the
> > > > > > rubble.  Now to get on with color induced pleasures, I don't get any
> > > > > > anatomical tingle from color but I wouldn't discount it as a viable
> > > > > > occurrence and cognate feature.  I think the sensations derived by 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > visual of the female posterior would be the same whether it was
> > > > > > appearing in black and white or in vivid technicolor.  I do
> > > > > > tremendously enjoy watching a fire and when I have one going on in 
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > backyard fire pit I sometimes become mesmerized by it; something 
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > the richness in the colors of flame and the extreme depth of the
> > > > > > glowing embers, almost as if it were alive.  I'm also affected by 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > colors in the forest and at places such as the Grand Canyon, a sight
> > > > > > to see by the way if you ever get the opportunity.  Nature offers 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > best colors in the world.
> > > > > > I would agree, as you say, color is an accepted method of making
> > > > > > statement and used very blatantly in advertising.  I neither have a
> > > > > > pink shirt or any other wardrobe piece and wouldn't consider driving
> > > > > > or owning anything pink but my wife insists that I should get a pink
> > > > > > shirt.  She makes a point of it to draw my attention to men on
> > > > > > television that are wearing a pink shirt or tie and stating that it 
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > the new thing for men followed by my retort of not caring about 
> > > > > > things
> > > > > > pushed on society by media offerings.  If they were to start wearing
> > > > > > glasses with flowers on them that's their business.  I personally 
> > > > > > view
> > > > > > all that as a media push to generalize sexual orientation, an
> > > > > > extension of the unisex movement of past notoriety and the feminist
> > > > > > agenda of breaking down the long held position of machismo, I don't
> > > > > > see it happening anytime soon except on a small scale, in 
> > > > > > microcosmic
> > > > > > cultural forms
> > > > > > .
> > > > > > I might point out, though I thought you would have saved me the 
> > > > > > time,
> > > > > > that there has been research on color.
>
> > > > > >http://www.colormatters.com/khouw.html
>
> > > > > >http://www.colormatters.com/brain.html
>
> > > > > > Color has significance in culture, symbolism and emotion.  This is
> > > > > > what the thread poses to address.
>
> > > > > > Understanding Color Emotion Triggers, Part 1A
> > > > > >http://www.basictips.com/understanding-color-emotion-triggers-part-1a...
>
> > > > > > Therapy?
> > > > > >http://www.therapycolor.com/
>
> > > > > > On Mar 2, 12:10 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >> What a pleasure it is to state once more that you are wrong Slip!
> > > > > >> Armed with academic research of the highest calibre (watching a BBC
> > > > > >> comedy programme called QI) I am able to destroy what you had 
> > > > > >> thought
> > > > > >> work of substance.  It turns out the word 'boy' did not exist in
> > > > > >> English as a term for children of the male gender until recent 
> > > > > >> times.
> > > > > >> 'Boys' were knaves and 'girls' gay-knaves.  Pink was the colour for
> > > > > >> 'boys' and blue for 'girls', perhaps as late as the 1920's.  Once
> > > > > >> again you have built a house of cards!
> > > > > >> There was a time, as a broke undergraduate, that I could be found 
> > > > > >> on
> > > > > >> the streets of Salford, asking people what part of their sexual
> > > > > >> anatomy certain colours brought to mind (or was it the other way
> > > > > >> round?) for some dire marketing outfit.  I somehow survived.  
> > > > > >> French
> > > > > >> rugby union teams are known to wear pink.
>
> > > > > >> The colours I really like and remember are those that identify the
> > > > > >> presence of certain elements in a bunsen burner flame.  The rest is
> > > > > >> all curtains and stuff of no interest to any red-bloodied man.  My
> > > > > >> brother is colour blind and gets along rather better than me.  I 
> > > > > >> have
> > > > > >> noticed all sorts of vile colours are associated with advertising 
> > > > > >> and
> > > > > >> day-time television.  Primary puke perhaps?  I do grow odd coloured
> > > > > >> veggies because Sue likes them (purple sprouts, yellow cucumber
> > > > > >> etc.).  Rather as in people I don't care what colour anything is,
> > > > > >> unless the colour means something (like rotten, brown meat).  I 
> > > > > >> don't
> > > > > >> drive a pink car though and have never owned a pink shirt.
>
> > > > > >> What's with you coming all over sensitive like?  Thinking of a 'new
> > > > > >> man strategy' to get laid, going
>
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