Make me a witness take me out out of darkness out of doubt I won't weigh you down with good intention won't make fire out of clay or other inventions
Will we burn in heaven like we do down here will the change come while we're waiting Everyone is waiting And when we're done soul searching and we carried the weight and died for a cause is misery made beautiful right before our eyes will mercy be revealed or blind us where we stand Will we burn in heaven like we do down here will the change come while we're waiting everyone is waiting Witness/Sarah McLachlan On Mar 4, 8:47 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > On 3 Mar, 19:10, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > > > "And, of course, there's the possibility that fire is the simplest > > form > > of life. It moves, it consumes, it respires, it leaves waste (ash) > > and, if you look at sparks as spores, it reproduces. Thus the > > stories > > of Djinn being made of fire isn't all that much of a stretch if fire > > itself is the simplest form of life, why couldn't there be more > > complex forms based ON it? "- Pat > > > Ineresting concept! Perhaps it did, in fact, give birth to much of our > > modern machine "life forms"! It would be a great new topic. Think > > Matrix! > > Yeah, I had that concept (fire as a life form) laid on me back when I > was about 15 by a person who, now, has been a friend for over 30 > years. As far as 'The Matrix' goes, there's a way OUT of The Matrix. > Space-Time keeps you on permanent record. Well, when I say > 'permanent', I mean 'for all time'. That's not to say that there > isn't 'eternal' existence outside of the continuum. But that form of > existence wouldn't remove anything from the continuum of space-time. > It's the difference between 'data space' on a CPU and the 'core > memory'. Consciousness itself is 'the bus' that rides between them. > > > > > On Mar 3, 7:45 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 3 Mar, 00:48, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Yep, fire is the thing for me. It has been around for thousands of > > > > years, possibly before our time here and has remained the same since > > > > our primordial beginnings. When I sit around a fire I realize that it > > > > is the same fire that our ancient ancestors sat around. > > > > And, of course, there's the possibility that fire is the simplest form > > > of life. It moves, it consumes, it respires, it leaves waste (ash) > > > and, if you look at sparks as spores, it reproduces. Thus the stories > > > of Djinn being made of fire isn't all that much of a stretch if fire > > > itself is the simplest form of life, why couldn't there be more > > > complex forms based ON it? > > > > >We've > > > > advanced and yet we haven't. The earth remains the same, the stars, > > > > the cosmos, the solar system and all the events. We are just fools > > > > without regard for what is more powerful than us. So your clothes are > > > > dark and worn out and your not the fashion aficionado. That's why the > > > > young chicks don't dig you man, your passe, out dated like some of the > > > > stuff in your fridge. Time to throw out those rags and get you some > > > > snappy duds. Stop being a pathetic neutralist and watch your life > > > > change before your eyes. I think color has healing power. > > > > > On Mar 2, 10:54 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I had forgotten fires Slipper. Do you start many? > > > > > > I often think TJ Hooker symbolises much that has really happened in > > > > > regard of gender relations - well not really, but I just caught 30 > > > > > seconds of it switching through to the news channel. > > > > > > The universe is beige. This makes me suspect some property speculator > > > > > has painted it 'neutral' for a ready sale. There is splendour in > > > > > colour once one is outside the media flow, maybe even on the Steiner > > > > > fringe. Some animals are sensitive to a far greater range of colour > > > > > reception-creation than we are. West Germany was the bundes republic > > > > > - their adverts are even worse than ours. One can find more colour in > > > > > a black and white page than in that blared at us in 'primary vision'. > > > > > Colour tends to disappear in night time sniping vision. Hard to go > > > > > back to black and white tv after a colour one, but as the Goons said, > > > > > you can't do a flock of flying elephants dropping raspberries from > > > > > 30,000 feet into bowls of whipped cream other than on the radio. Much > > > > > more colourful. > > > > > > Most of my clothes are dark, old and worn out. I just don't care. > > > > > Colours are more likely to upset me than interest me (outside the lab) > > > > > - so I guess I'm a pathetic neutralist. Next couple of hours will be > > > > > spent breaking in new shoes. I had a grey pair once - that was > > > > > metrosexual enough for me! > > > > > > On 2 Mar, 15:29, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Interesting. I don't get much, if any, pleasure from colors. > > > > > > Indeed, > > > > > > your mentioning of the shape of a woman's behind was revealing. > > > > > > Watching as she walks away from me in heels reminds me of how much I > > > > > > love old black and white movies. The way women dressed and walked > > > > > > and > > > > > > vamped on the silver screen was awesome to behold. Some of the sexy > > > > > > clothes business women wear now does the same thing and most > > > > > > business > > > > > > wear is black or gray or white anyway. Can't get much blander then > > > > > > that. It's all in how it hugs the curves, ain't it? > > > > > > > Ever see one of the 'colorized' b&w movies? Horrid. Turner > > > > > > deserved > > > > > > the AOL disaster just for doing that. And marrying Hanoi Jane. How > > > > > > can someone so smart be so dumb? > > > > > > > dj > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > How pleasurable is it? Unfortunately with equal pleasure I will > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > to point out that you are wrong. You see the sentence > > > > > > > reads ...............there has been assignments of color > > > > > > > throughout > > > > > > > the years.......... and this is true as stated, the assignments of > > > > > > > colors with the added element of "time". I would think post > > > > > > > 1920's > > > > > > > fits into the realm of "throughout the years". Therefore to > > > > > > > indicate > > > > > > > that blue and pink were assigned to boys and girls respectively is > > > > > > > correct during the era they were in actual use. Furthermore your > > > > > > > "colored" glasses might have caused a visual refraction resulting > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > an ophthalmic anomaly whereby you missed the admission that I > > > > > > > 'knew > > > > > > > there were exceptions', one of which you were so gracious to point > > > > > > > out. A little bit of a tid bit might also show that the one > > > > > > > sentence > > > > > > > was not and is not the foundation of the thread post, ergo: your > > > > > > > own > > > > > > > house of cards has collapsed. > > > > > > > But don't worry mate, it looks like you have dug yourself out of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > rubble. Now to get on with color induced pleasures, I don't get > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > anatomical tingle from color but I wouldn't discount it as a > > > > > > > viable > > > > > > > occurrence and cognate feature. I think the sensations derived > > > > > > > by the > > > > > > > visual of the female posterior would be the same whether it was > > > > > > > appearing in black and white or in vivid technicolor. I do > > > > > > > tremendously enjoy watching a fire and when I have one going on > > > > > > > in my > > > > > > > backyard fire pit I sometimes become mesmerized by it; something > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > the richness in the colors of flame and the extreme depth of the > > > > > > > glowing embers, almost as if it were alive. I'm also affected by > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > colors in the forest and at places such as the Grand Canyon, a > > > > > > > sight > > > > > > > to see by the way if you ever get the opportunity. Nature offers > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > best colors in the world. > > > > > > > I would agree, as you say, color is an accepted method of making > > > > > > > statement and used very blatantly in advertising. I neither have > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > pink shirt or any other wardrobe piece and wouldn't consider > > > > > > > driving > > > > > > > or owning anything pink but my wife insists that I should get a > > > > > > > pink > > > > > > > shirt. She makes a point of it to draw my attention to men on > > > > > > > television that are wearing a pink shirt or tie and stating that > > > > > > > it is > > > > > > > the new thing for men followed by my retort of not caring about > > > > > > > things > > > > > > > pushed on society by media offerings. If they were to start > > > > > > > wearing > > > > > > > glasses with flowers on them that's their business. I personally > > > > > > > view > > > > > > > all that as a media push to generalize sexual orientation, an > > > > > > > extension of the unisex movement of past notoriety and the > > > > > > > feminist > > > > > > > agenda of breaking down the long held position of machismo, I > > > > > > > don't > > > > > > > see it happening anytime soon except on a small scale, in > > > > > > > microcosmic > > > > > > > cultural forms > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > I might point out, though I thought you would have saved me the > > > > > > > time, > > > > > > > that there has been research on color. > > > > > > > >http://www.colormatters.com/khouw.html > > > > > > > >http://www.colormatters.com/brain.html > > > > > > > > Color has significance in culture, symbolism and emotion. This is > > > > > > > what the thread poses to address. > > > > > > > > Understanding Color Emotion Triggers, Part 1A > > > > > > >http://www.basictips.com/understanding-color-emotion-triggers-part-1a... > > > > > > > > Therapy? > > > > > > >http://www.therapycolor.com/ > > > > > > > > On Mar 2, 12:10 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> What a pleasure it is to state once more that you are wrong Slip! > > > > > > >> Armed with academic research of the highest calibre (watching a > > > > > > >> BBC > > > > > > >> comedy programme called QI) I am able to destroy what you had > > > > > > >> thought > > > > > > >> work of substance. It turns out the word 'boy' did not exist in > > > > > > >> English as a term for children of the male gender until recent > > > > > > >> times. > > > > > > >> 'Boys' were knaves and 'girls' gay-knaves. Pink was the colour > > > > > > >> for > > > > > > >> 'boys' and blue for 'girls', perhaps as late as the 1920's. Once > > > > > > >> again you have built a house of cards! > > > > > > >> There was a time, as a broke undergraduate, that I could be > > > > > > >> found on > > > > > > >> the streets of Salford, asking people what part of their sexual > > > > > > >> anatomy certain colours brought to mind (or was it the other way > > > > > > >> round?) for some dire marketing outfit. I somehow survived. > > > > > > >> French > > > > > > >> rugby union > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
