On 4 Mar, 21:56, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
> Make me a witness
> take me out
> out of darkness
> out of doubt
>
> I won't weigh you down
> with good intention
> won't make fire out of clay
> or other inventions
>
> Will we burn in heaven
> like we do down here
> will the change come
> while we're waiting
>
> Everyone is waiting
>
> And when we're done
> soul searching
> and we carried the weight
> and died for a cause
> is misery
> made beautiful
> right before our eyes
> will mercy be revealed
> or blind us where we stand
>
> Will we burn in heaven
> like we do down here
> will the change come while we're waiting
> everyone is waiting
>
> Witness/Sarah McLachlan
>

Interesting.  I used to have conversations on another group with a
person who was a close friend of hers.  Although I've never heard any
of her material, yet.  Her 'friend' was also a deep thinker and also
had a huge crush on her but could never bring himself to tell her
about it.

> On Mar 4, 8:47 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 3 Mar, 19:10, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > "And, of course, there's the possibility that fire is the simplest
> > > form
> > > of life.  It moves, it consumes, it respires, it leaves waste (ash)
> > > and, if you look at sparks as spores, it reproduces.  Thus the
> > > stories
> > > of Djinn being made of fire isn't all that much of a stretch if fire
> > > itself is the simplest form of life, why couldn't there be more
> > > complex forms based ON it? "- Pat
>
> > > Ineresting concept! Perhaps it did, in fact, give birth to much of our
> > > modern machine "life forms"! It would be a great new topic. Think
> > > Matrix!
>
> > Yeah, I had that concept (fire as a life form) laid on me back when I
> > was about 15 by a person who, now, has been a friend for over 30
> > years.  As far as 'The Matrix' goes, there's a way OUT of The Matrix.
> > Space-Time keeps you on permanent record.  Well, when I say
> > 'permanent', I mean 'for all time'.  That's not to say that there
> > isn't 'eternal' existence outside of the continuum.  But that form of
> > existence wouldn't remove anything from the continuum of space-time.
> > It's the difference between 'data space' on a CPU and the 'core
> > memory'.  Consciousness itself is 'the bus' that rides between them.
>
> > > On Mar 3, 7:45 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > On 3 Mar, 00:48, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Yep, fire is the thing for me.  It has been around for thousands of
> > > > > years, possibly before our time here and has remained the same since
> > > > > our primordial beginnings.  When I sit around a fire I realize that it
> > > > > is the same fire that our ancient ancestors sat around.  
>
> > > > And, of course, there's the possibility that fire is the simplest form
> > > > of life.  It moves, it consumes, it respires, it leaves waste (ash)
> > > > and, if you look at sparks as spores, it reproduces.  Thus the stories
> > > > of Djinn being made of fire isn't all that much of a stretch if fire
> > > > itself is the simplest form of life, why couldn't there be more
> > > > complex forms based ON it?
>
> > > > >We've
> > > > > advanced and yet we haven't.  The earth remains the same, the stars,
> > > > > the cosmos, the solar system and all the events. We are just fools
> > > > > without regard for what is more powerful than us. So your clothes are
> > > > > dark and worn out and your not the fashion aficionado.  That's why the
> > > > > young chicks don't dig you man, your passe, out dated like some of the
> > > > > stuff in your fridge.  Time to throw out those rags and get you some
> > > > > snappy duds.  Stop being a pathetic neutralist and watch your life
> > > > > change before your eyes.  I think color has healing power.
>
> > > > > On Mar 2, 10:54 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > I had forgotten fires Slipper.  Do you start many?
>
> > > > > > I often think TJ Hooker symbolises much that has really happened in
> > > > > > regard of gender relations - well not really, but I just caught 30
> > > > > > seconds of it switching through to the news channel.
>
> > > > > > The universe is beige.  This makes me suspect some property 
> > > > > > speculator
> > > > > > has painted it 'neutral' for a ready sale.  There is splendour in
> > > > > > colour once one is outside the media flow, maybe even on the Steiner
> > > > > > fringe.  Some animals are sensitive to a far greater range of colour
> > > > > > reception-creation than we are.  West Germany was the bundes 
> > > > > > republic
> > > > > > - their adverts are even worse than ours.  One can find more colour 
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > a black and white page than in that blared at us in 'primary 
> > > > > > vision'.
> > > > > > Colour tends to disappear in night time sniping vision.  Hard to go
> > > > > > back to black and white tv after a colour one, but as the Goons 
> > > > > > said,
> > > > > > you can't do a flock of flying elephants dropping raspberries from
> > > > > > 30,000 feet into bowls of whipped cream other than on the radio.  
> > > > > > Much
> > > > > > more colourful.
>
> > > > > > Most of my clothes are dark, old and worn out.  I just don't care.
> > > > > > Colours are more likely to upset me than interest me (outside the 
> > > > > > lab)
> > > > > > - so I guess I'm a pathetic neutralist.  Next couple of hours will 
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > spent breaking in new shoes.  I had a grey pair once - that was
> > > > > > metrosexual enough for me!
>
> > > > > > On 2 Mar, 15:29, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Interesting.  I don't get much, if any, pleasure from colors.  
> > > > > > > Indeed,
> > > > > > > your mentioning of the shape of a woman's behind was revealing.
> > > > > > > Watching as she walks away from me in heels reminds me of how 
> > > > > > > much I
> > > > > > > love old black and white movies.  The way women dressed and 
> > > > > > > walked and
> > > > > > > vamped on the silver screen was awesome to behold.  Some of the 
> > > > > > > sexy
> > > > > > > clothes business women wear now does the same thing and most 
> > > > > > > business
> > > > > > > wear is black or gray or white anyway.  Can't get much blander 
> > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > that.  It's all in how it hugs the curves, ain't it?
>
> > > > > > > Ever see one of the 'colorized' b&w movies?  Horrid.  Turner 
> > > > > > > deserved
> > > > > > > the AOL disaster just for doing that.  And marrying Hanoi Jane.  
> > > > > > > How
> > > > > > > can someone so smart be so dumb?
>
> > > > > > > dj
>
> > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > How pleasurable is it?  Unfortunately with equal pleasure I 
> > > > > > > > will have
> > > > > > > > to point out that you are wrong.  You see the sentence
> > > > > > > > reads ...............there has been assignments of color 
> > > > > > > > throughout
> > > > > > > > the years.......... and this is true as stated, the assignments 
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > colors with the added element of "time".  I would think post 
> > > > > > > > 1920's
> > > > > > > > fits into the realm of "throughout the years".  Therefore to 
> > > > > > > > indicate
> > > > > > > > that blue and pink were assigned to boys and girls respectively 
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > correct during the era they were in actual use.  Furthermore 
> > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > "colored" glasses might have caused a visual refraction 
> > > > > > > > resulting in
> > > > > > > > an ophthalmic anomaly whereby you missed the admission that I 
> > > > > > > > 'knew
> > > > > > > > there were exceptions', one of which you were so gracious to 
> > > > > > > > point
> > > > > > > > out.   A little bit of a tid bit might also show that the one 
> > > > > > > > sentence
> > > > > > > > was not and is not the foundation of the thread post, ergo: 
> > > > > > > > your own
> > > > > > > > house of cards has collapsed.
> > > > > > > > But don't worry mate, it looks like you have dug yourself out 
> > > > > > > > of the
> > > > > > > > rubble.  Now to get on with color induced pleasures, I don't 
> > > > > > > > get any
> > > > > > > > anatomical tingle from color but I wouldn't discount it as a 
> > > > > > > > viable
> > > > > > > > occurrence and cognate feature.  I think the sensations derived 
> > > > > > > > by the
> > > > > > > > visual of the female posterior would be the same whether it was
> > > > > > > > appearing in black and white or in vivid technicolor.  I do
> > > > > > > > tremendously enjoy watching a fire and when I have one going on 
> > > > > > > > in my
> > > > > > > > backyard fire pit I sometimes become mesmerized by it; 
> > > > > > > > something about
> > > > > > > > the richness in the colors of flame and the extreme depth of the
> > > > > > > > glowing embers, almost as if it were alive.  I'm also affected 
> > > > > > > > by the
> > > > > > > > colors in the forest and at places such as the Grand Canyon, a 
> > > > > > > > sight
> > > > > > > > to see by the way if you ever get the opportunity.  Nature 
> > > > > > > > offers the
> > > > > > > > best colors in the world.
> > > > > > > > I would agree, as you say, color is an accepted method of making
> > > > > > > > statement and used very blatantly in advertising.  I neither 
> > > > > > > > have a
> > > > > > > > pink shirt or any other wardrobe piece and wouldn't consider 
> > > > > > > > driving
> > > > > > > > or owning anything pink but my wife insists that I should get a 
> > > > > > > > pink
> > > > > > > > shirt.  She makes a point of it to draw my attention to men on
> > > > > > > > television that are wearing a pink shirt or tie and stating 
> > > > > > > > that it is
> > > > > > > > the new thing for men followed by my retort of not caring about 
> > > > > > > > things
> > > > > > > > pushed on society by media offerings.  If they were to start 
> > > > > > > > wearing
> > > > > > > > glasses with flowers on them that's their business.  I 
> > > > > > > > personally view
> > > > > > > > all that as a media push to generalize sexual orientation, an
> > > > > > > > extension of the unisex movement of past notoriety and the 
> > > > > > > > feminist
> > > > > > > > agenda of breaking down the long held position of machismo, I 
> > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > see it happening anytime soon except on a small scale, in 
> > > > > > > > microcosmic
> > > > > > > > cultural forms
> > > > > > > > .
> > > > > > > > I might point out, though I thought you would have saved me the 
> > > > > > > > time,
> > > > > > > > that there has been research on color.
>
> > > > > > > >http://www.colormatters.com/khouw.html
>
> > > > > > > >http://www.colormatters.com/brain.html
>
> > > > > > > > Color has significance in culture, symbolism and emotion.  This 
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > what the thread poses to address.
>
> > > > > > > > Understanding Color Emotion Triggers, Part 1A
> > > > > > > >http://www.basictips.com/understanding-color-emotion-triggers-part-1a...
>
> > > > > > > > Therapy?
> > > > > > > >http://www.therapycolor.com/
>
> > > > > > > > On Mar 2, 12:10 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> What a pleasure it is to state once more that you
>
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