The problem Lee is that everyone is something, so if we are to monitor
teachers for their racist attitudes we will also have to monitor them
for their sexual preferences and their political positions and their
religious persuasions and their etc etc etc, the list goes on and in
my opinion is another proponent for home schooling.  Teaching my
children at home helps minimize the exposure to all the warped crap in
the public school system, besides that public schools are not turning
out intelligent kids but more so pushing students through to
graduation so they could gain government funding, basically it has
become turnstile education.

On Mar 12, 10:43 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
> Heh well I am of course now an ex butcher.
>
> Yes exactly, I don't think we can afford to underestimate the effect
> teachers have on their pupils.
>
> On 12 Mar, 16:40, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Just be glad they don't hate butchers! lol
>
> > Truthfully, I'm with you.  They can have the ability to destroy lives
> > as well as any law enforcement branch.
>
> > On Mar 12, 10:20 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > And there in lies the rub Pat.
>
> > > As I say I guess we all kow some racist people.  I can't even think of
> > > one of them not propered to offer their claptrap at any oppertunity.
>
> > > The point though is this, why ban members of racist organisations from
> > > the police force and the prison services, and allow them access to
> > > kids?
>
> > > It is true that I have an overwhelming bias here, yet that aside I
> > > think my point a valid one.
>
> > > As to Atheist techears of RE, two thoughts occour to me.  Why would an
> > > Atheist want to teach RE?  Which leads to the second thought, perhaps
> > > we shouldthen be wary of thier motivations for doing so?
>
> > > Although in principle you are correct I would have little trouble with
> > > letting an athiest teach kids RE, after all motivations aside,
> > > spirtual faith IS a personal matter and I really don't care whether
> > > people are Theist or Atheist.  I have love for God my freind, and feel
> > > almost nowt for any of the many paths towards such an entity,
> > > including my own.
>
> > > Racism though is differant isn't it?  Religion CAN be divisive if we
> > > as individuals let it be, but a belife that fosters the belife that
> > > somehow the colour of the skin has any bearing on well anything
> > > important at all, is certianly divisive.
>
> > > As to expressing their views.  Can you remember being at School Pat?
> > > Can you remember any teacher that did not conciously or unconciously
> > > infect you with their own ideas, or belife structure?
>
> > > I know I can't.
>
> > > The very best teachers that I know engage their pupils, in doing so
> > > the teacher must give of herself something to the kids, do you not
> > > think?
>
> > > On 12 Mar, 16:03, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > On 12 Mar, 15:06, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Well today we have the news that ministers have decided it is not
> > > > > appropriate to ban teachers who are members of of political parties
> > > > > that support racisim.
>
> > > > > I can understand freedom of speach and belife, yes I can.  what I
> > > > > don't understand is that Police officers and those who work in the
> > > > > prision services cannot keep their jobs if they are members of such
> > > > > groups.
>
> > > > > Yet teachers are fine?  We all know some racist people I am sure, it
> > > > > is very hard for them not to let their belifes effect they way they
> > > > > treat people, and so my fear is substandard teaching from these people
> > > > > on the grounds of the colour of their pupils skin.
>
> > > > > I think our goverment has fucked this one up good and proper, they
> > > > > could have made a very strong stance here, what a pity, but what do
> > > > > you think?
>
> > > > Is it OK, in the UK, to have an atheist teaching RE (Religious
> > > > Education)?  Should it be?  Personally, I don't think the teacher's
> > > > beliefs should matter as long as they aren't teaching their beliefs
> > > > and stick to the curriculum.  That may be harder for some, but, if an
> > > > atheist has a decent background and can teach the subject of RE, then
> > > > I don't think their personal beliefs should be held against them.
> > > > Now, if they add in remarks that are extra-curricular, then, lke the
> > > > BNP-promoting teacher, should be thrown out.  As long as the BNP
> > > > member doesn't express his views in the classroom and sticks to the
> > > > curriculum, then there shouldn't be a problem.- Hide quoted text -
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