I'm not sure if this is fashion or current, as far as I know the idea
of rehabilitation of criminals came about in this country during the
Victorian era?

On 15 Mar, 11:57, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> It is now the social fashion to believe in redemption and
> rehabilitation of violent criminals. One could also examine man's long
> history of warfare and wonder about the morality except that we have
> elevated warfare to an art.
>
> On Mar 15, 5:56 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Of course.
>
> > Specificaly I had the death penalty in mind.  My stance puts such a
> > thing as immorral and unethical.  I use reason deviod of emotional
> > attachment to reach such a stance, and my reasoning runs thusly:
>
> > To kill a killer for the crime of killing another is engaging in the
> > same behaviour we initialy find repugnant in the killer, thus is
> > immoral.
>
> > What then is the 'reason' why the majority of the world find murder
> > immorral?
>
> > Choice.  To kill another takes all choice from them.  We can see in
> > this very age we find ourselves living in that the concept of
> > 'fairness' and equality of treatment is becoming more and more
> > important to the human beast.  Our news is full of percived
> > unfairness, from race relations, to mysogony in the workplace.
>
> > The application of emotion in decideing the morality of the death
> > penalty tend towards statments such as 'when they kill they losse all
> > rights'.  Yet reason would show us that 'two wrongs don't make a
> > right'.
>
> > On 12 Mar, 23:31, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > but only if they are acceptable to the
>
> > > > rest of us. <<Manfraco
>
> > > Really, I have a hard time understanding this.  I take it that if my
> > > emotions are not acceptable to you and yours then it is deemed
> > > unacceptable?
>
> > > By what right does anyone or any society have to determine that
> > > someone's emotions are not acceptable.
>
> > > Of course I will reiterate my first reply.
>
> > > Morality has a broad scope considering much of it is defined by
> > > society/culture/religion.   Emotional attachment to a moral dilemma
> > > would have to be based on the defined moral incident specific to a
> > > circumstance.
>
> > > I think we'd be better to work with a specific moral dilemma if we are
> > > going to establish the correctness of moral emotions and whether they
> > > should be kept in check or allowed to flow freely.
>
> > > Anyone have an example of a moral dilemma?
>
> > > Lee you started this so you should provide an example of what you were
> > > thinking about.
>
> > > On Mar 12, 4:57 pm, Manfraco Frank Elder <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Hi Lee!
> > > > I believe that in a moral dilemma emotions must be kept in check by
> > > > reason, which is the base of acceptable human standard, therefore
> > > > emotions have a role in it; but only if they are acceptable to the
> > > > rest of us.
>
> > > > On Mar 10, 1:46 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > So a though occoured to me yesterday.
>
> > > > > Is it better to approach moraly dilemars in an emotionly unattached
> > > > > reasonable way, or do emotions have a role to play in moral 
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