On 15 Mar, 14:05, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > Hahah yeah I see. > > There are basicly two ways to approach this Ian. > > If you subscribe to a belife that is unreasonable, I.E. that a > creative God exists, then dues to the lack of objective evidance, and > as I'm sure you'll already realise, then any claim you make on that > belief must be treated the same as any other claim. Or I belive in > God therefore I can make any claim about God. > > Secondly. For every theist the ultimate authority on their theist > belife must be the holy scripture they subscribe to. In my case Guru > Granth Sahib, paints a pictire of a God that is not wrathfull but all > loving. The idea of karmic responsiblity shows a God that gives us > all chance upon chance upon chance of meeting God, so therfore no > hell. > > The rest of my claims are simular deductions based upon both my > previous meditations before Sikhi on the nature of what God is, and > from Guru Granth Sahib. Therefore any scripuure that runs contrary to > this belife, I can claim as being scriture adultarated by the hands of > mankind. >
Or, logically, that your own deductions and beliefs are wrong. If that is not a possibility, then you KNOW how strong your logic is...i.e., it's as good as a sieve at holding water. How can having a chance of meeting God mean that there is no hell? That's absurd. How can an all-loving God account for evil? It can't, and, therefore, isn't omnipotent and, therefore isn't God. Lee, you're sounding like Epicurus here, and that doesn't help your argument. But, perhaps it's a subtle part of the Sikh way to contradict and undermine its own authority. After all, your scripture says mine is right and my scripture says yours is wrong, so yours says yours is wrong. Something silly this way prays, methinks!! ;-) > On 15 Mar, 13:34, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On 15 March 2010 13:15, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Well in cases like that my personal belife is that such words come > > > from man. And so is not the word of God. > > > And if the scriptures call for your death for such beliefs? You're playing > > pick 'n mix with scared texts here, Lee. What gives you the insight to > > delineate between what God said and what he didn't say? Is there a flowchart > > available? Some kind of intelligently branching workflow that I could knock > > up into a website so we can share with profound truth more widely? > > > The reason I ask is because if you get an answer wrong it's the difference > > between life or death, eternal paradise or eternal toture, being righteous > > or being a heretic, believing truth or believing a lie, justice or > > injustice, etc, etc. > > > You're basically doomed if you think there's even a grain of truth to any of > > three Abrahamic religions. :) > > > Ian- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
