"But I think it is worthwhile to invest in one's identity as much as they pursue of theoretica." - Ash
I think this is true, Ash, and at some point, we must let both go. There is a subtle difference between identity and self image. In our identity, we store everything we identify with, all of our attachments. To our ego, letting go of these leaves emptiness (depression). Our self image holds those aspects and qualities of our self that we have taken into awareness (love, compassion, forgiveness). If we are confident in our self image, we will not fall into doubt or wallow in identity. The biblical story of the pool of Bethesda leads us to this notion - about the water as our consciousness, the stirring our spirit, and the first of the lame into the pool to be healed our own thoughts of pain and separation (transcending identity). On Mar 22, 1:40 pm, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > If you will excuse my naive thinking, it is imperfect but sometimes I > have to decide what to tell myself through the process of interpersonal > exploration. Naive because I will assume that I understand, as I believe > it to have truth value even if it only scratches the surface, you can be > the judge. > > Justifications are a difficult subject, as we could ask 'why?' of any > thing at any point, though some believe there to be ontological > exhaustion according to the rationalized system of their choosing. I > don't pretend to comprehend them all, but the process of disappointment > hasn't failed me yet, each one eventually makes a sacrifice for the > purpose of a comprehensible system integrity. > > These things have an effect on perceptions I think developing over a > longer term. Personally I've wound myself up into states of conceptual > context switching to the point of becoming nearly catatonic, switching > between objective, subjective, universal, absolute and never found a > limit to their attributes or interrelations. The odd twist for me has > been that both the 'existential' and 'spiritual' have been like this for > me. If the comedy may be perfectionism the tragedy would be paralysis, > perhaps that is the minds last resort and a very bad type of suffering > IMO. For some time I expected to find an indication of meaning and > purpose from objective analysis, the problem being that I ignored the > subjective experience and come to believe that I will not have one > without the other. For me the imbalance represents a dislocation, > pursuing one without the other would only generate states of anxiety and > depression. Eventually, I found that this was a cyclic occurrence which > I was fueling unintentionally as it became a hunger, it seemed humorous > that I was behaving mentally like a junkie. Someone once told me they > smoked rock because it made them feel like god, that makes a little > sense now. > > When one integrates one of the available systems it usually comes with a > sense of security and continuity, a grounding. For one who is a traveler > of sorts, there seem to be far fewer mentors. It was important for me to > overcome society's definitions and see it as MY way. But I think it is > worthwhile to invest in one's identity as much as they pursue of > theoretica. Detachment, feeling non-existent, and long periods of > rumination are warning signs for me and it becomes important to catch > warning signs. That's hindsight BTW. I think the method may be of use in > your situation as well, even if it's just a starter from my meager > understandings. > > Godspeed, > -Ash > > On 3/18/2010 11:11 AM, pol.science kid wrote: > > > > > Greetings.. fellow eyers.. now.. i dont have much to offer rite now.. > > but only require some help.. haunted by this strange emptiness..and a > > feeling of void.. without any reason.. it brings me again and again to > > the initial post i posted at mind's...the pointlessness of > > everything.. and the absurdity behind every action.. when the view is > > from a different level..the endless justifications.. a never ending > > chain..where justification for something is found in something outside > > the thing...and justification for that outside it.. it never ends... > > though it is not very articulately put...i hope i make my point > > clear....it somehow makes one think of suicide... (no i am not > > contemplating it)..;-)- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
