Of course fran...and over here the notion of "the public good" has all but evaporated...especially in the dogmatic religious world.
On Mar 25, 12:35 pm, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: > It all comes down to a simple aphorism, doesn't it; you get what you > pay for! > > There are other ways to look at tax and social spending, for example, > "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his > needs ... " :-) > > Francis > > On 25 Mrz., 19:19, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Yes Lee...this used to be the general stance about taxes over > > here...until the lase few decades. Taxation as a citizen's > > responsibility...and I agree. Personally, I like having libraries, > > roads, police, hospitals, sewers...oh, wait, much of this has been > > privatized recently...obviously that reduces the tax burden and does a > > better job, right? ;-) Sorry for the irony...I just find the overall > > tone of the tax haters to be anathma. > > > On Mar 25, 2:33 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Well Don then I'm glad that you are not a police officer. > > > > I'm sorry I can't agree with your comment re: average Americans, I > > > think it is the avarage American that may benifit from this. Perhaps > > > you mean richer Americans? > > > > The think is Don, Taxes are a part of life, you chaps over in the > > > States have sooo much less of a tax burden than us, yet massive > > > amounts of unfairness. Myself, I earn enough for mine and my family > > > needs, I pay my taxes with no compliants, citizen Lee huh. > > > > On 24 Mar, 20:38, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Don that is a shocking thing to hear and you a Police Officer? > > > > > > Don't deserve the same level of care as those of US who can afford to > > > > > pay? Fuck me that is disgusting. > > > > > > You say you see insurance as what it is. So you see it as a game of > > > > > chance and profit? That is the insurance company makes profit on the > > > > > chance of you never having to make a claim. > > > > > > You do not like the idea of socilised health care for all becuase you > > > > > would be bored waiting in ques? > > > > > > Sorry Lee if I gave wrong impression. I'm not a police officer. I > > > > > wouldn't make a very good one I think. I have the wrong temperament. > > > > > Sorry you're disgusted. It's not so much that I'll be bored it's that > > > > I'll > > > > be wasting time for less quality service. Average Americans are taking > > > > a > > > > hit to line the pockets of special interests and I include the insurance > > > > companies among those benefiting. It's a net loss for the American > > > > people > > > > no matter how you slice it. > > > > > I truly, truly hope I'm wrong. > > > > > dj > > > > > > On 23 Mar, 05:22, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I see insurance as what it is and should be. Something to protect > > > > > > your assets should something catastrophic befall you. Such as > > > > > > disease > > > > > > or illness or fire or flood. If you have no assets(say, if you're > > > > > > dirt poor) ya don't need no stinkin' insurance. That's the way I've > > > > > > always seen it. I really don't get how people see something as a > > > > > > right that is really nothing of the sort. That doesn't mean that we > > > > > > should ignore the poor that are sick but it DOES mean they certainly > > > > > > don't deserve the same level of care as those of us who can afford > > > > > > better care. > > > > > > > I was in court today to take care of some business. I was there > > > > > > for 2 > > > > > > and a half hours. I saved roughly 250 dollars by seeing the judge > > > > > > and not just paying my tickets. You sit in pews until the row ahead > > > > > > of you is empty and then your row moves up one row. Cell phones > > > > > > turned off and nobody talking to each other. I sat there bored > > > > > > stiff > > > > > > thinking "yeah, in a few years, this is what it will be like at the > > > > > > doctors office." I was aching to pop off and say it out loud but > > > > > > was > > > > > > scared the judge would hear me. All these big city judges are > > > > > > bleeding heart liberals. Last thing I wanted to do was piss off the > > > > > > judge. > > > > > > > Got me to thinking seeing all these guys and dolls sitting there > > > > > > bored > > > > > > out of their minds. They should open up kiosks with hot dogs and > > > > > > jewelry and maybe a bar with mixed drinks and sodas while you wait. > > > > > > Maybe a bank of those cool poker slot machines. We'd all be a > > > > > > little > > > > > > less bored the the city could make a little more profit. Ooops. > > > > > > There's the P word. > > > > > > > dj > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:17 AM, iam deheretic <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Don You are a Cop and a proud job.. but when they over look the > > > > > corruption > > > > > > > and miss information to prevent a bill from passing it is a sad > > > > > > > day.. > > > > > My > > > > > > > question to you is this.. when policies of insurance companies > > > > > > > make in > > > > > the > > > > > > > name of freedom and profit are the board of directors and the top > > > > > corporate > > > > > > > executives held accountable for the murders they they with their > > > > > policies > > > > > > > committed? > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> Greetings comrades! Another great leap towards loss of personal > > > > > > >> and > > > > > > >> financial freedom. We're going so Euro pretty soon I'm going to > > > > > > >> stop > > > > > > >> taking a shower every day and give up on deodorant. Maybe try > > > > > > >> some > > > > > > >> warm beer as well just for solidarity. > > > > > > > >> Seriously, I'm a bit sad today. One bright spot was seeing my > > > > > > >> brother > > > > > > >> at the protest at the WH. He's there for a class but is free > > > > > > >> this > > > > > > >> weekend to play tourist. He called me and parked himself by the > > > > > > >> fox > > > > > > >> news camera and I finally spotted him. Looking bored. His > > > > > > >> answer to > > > > > > >> what he thinks of the HC bill is, "I don't know, I haven't read > > > > > > >> it." > > > > > > >> Yeah, he voted for Obama. I tried to get him to start a chant, > > > > > > >> "Free- > > > > > > >> Dom! Free-Dom!" but he wouldn't do it. Wussy. > > > > > > > >> They have more votes then they need now. Slaughter House Rules. > > > > > > >> Books will be written about this travesty of process and the > > > > > > >> fraud > > > > > > >> being perpetrated by our Congressmen. > > > > > > > >> Deficit neutral my left nad. 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