On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:52 PM, ornamentalmind
<[email protected]>wrote:

> “…The way welfare seems to breed dependency that moves to the next
> generation and never goes away.  The sense of entitlement is literally
> taught.  Organizations like Acorn exist just for this purpose. I
> believe this is a dignity destroyer.  I've had people brag, BRAG!,
> about the goodies they get from the government.  This disgusts me.” –
> DJ
>
> Overall, I find the sense of entitlement and teaching thereof found
> within the upper socio-economic strata of society to be much more
> troubling than that of the lower. I can say this with some confidence
> since I was born into those strata here in the US. First, it is not
> needed while in most cases the latter actually has needs. Secondly, it
> is used to perpetuate the myths of our economic system as well as
> deceptively acquire so much more than is healthy for those with such
> large appetites. AIG and other investment vestiges of Wall Street, the
> banking industry, auto manufacturing corporations and other “private”
> enterprises are beyond hypocritical in taking bail out funding, their
> actions are downright criminal. Talk about destroying dignity!!! And,
> then they just give themselves raises with tax money..bragging all the
> way to the bank!
>
> http://norris.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/10/unbelievable-words-from-aig/
>
> http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-march-18-2010/conservative-libertarian
>
>
Hear Hear..

> See Don?...again we agree that entitlement attitudes are the bane of
> society…
>

at least with the lower end of entitlement you could create jobs  to receive
it like..  sweeping the streets or picking up litter
Allan


> On Mar 25, 2:07 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I know you didn't mean it the way I took it Fran.  Perhaps I'm a little
> > nostalgic for the cowboy image.  We used to be different.  Not better but
> > unique.  Successful, driven.  As you say, the big boys on the block.  Now
> > we're sliding into mediocrity and I don't like it.  The WHO and Fidel
> > freakin' Castro is praising my government.  Somebody slap me; I must be
> > having a nightmare.;-)
> >
> > Thanks for the kind words and your sentiments are reciprocated.  I
> believe I
> > understand why you think like you do.  My problem is I don't trust my
> > leaders not to abuse their power.  We just handed the government(or they
> > just stole it*whine*) a LOT more power by approving massive tax
> increases.
> > I'm including the forced insurance and fines as taxes here.  They really
> > sneaked this one by the American people.  Even Fox News doesn't use the
> word
> > Taxes as often as they should be.  The feds decide how this gets spent.
>  For
> > the first 5 years they just collect taxes the hand outs don't start 'til
> > later.  I expect them to waste most of the money. Or borrow from it like
> > they did Social Security(damn foolish and irresponsible that).  It is
> really
> > very frustrating how ignorant most Congressmen are when it comes to
> > economics.  They figure out what they want to do(spend a boat load of
> money)
> > and then hire economists and accountants to make the data look good.
>  They
> > cook the books.  It should be criminal.
> >
> > I know you haven't accused me of hating poor people but I get that from
> > others all the time.  Helping poor people doesn't bother me.  Hell, it
> just
> > makes good economic sense if you can get them back on their feet.  What I
> > object to are the processes.  The way welfare seems to breed dependency
> that
> > moves to the next generation and never goes away.  The sense of
> entitlement
> > is literally taught.  Organizations like Acorn exist just for this
> purpose.
> > I believe this is a dignity destroyer.  I've had people brag, BRAG!,
> about
> > the goodies they get from the government.  This disgusts me.
> >
> > I wish I could communicate better but that's the best I can do.
> >
> > dj
>
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