It all comes down to a simple aphorism, doesn't it; you get what you pay for!
There are other ways to look at tax and social spending, for example, "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs ... " :-) Francis On 25 Mrz., 19:19, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes Lee...this used to be the general stance about taxes over > here...until the lase few decades. Taxation as a citizen's > responsibility...and I agree. Personally, I like having libraries, > roads, police, hospitals, sewers...oh, wait, much of this has been > privatized recently...obviously that reduces the tax burden and does a > better job, right? ;-) Sorry for the irony...I just find the overall > tone of the tax haters to be anathma. > > On Mar 25, 2:33 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Well Don then I'm glad that you are not a police officer. > > > I'm sorry I can't agree with your comment re: average Americans, I > > think it is the avarage American that may benifit from this. Perhaps > > you mean richer Americans? > > > The think is Don, Taxes are a part of life, you chaps over in the > > States have sooo much less of a tax burden than us, yet massive > > amounts of unfairness. Myself, I earn enough for mine and my family > > needs, I pay my taxes with no compliants, citizen Lee huh. > > > On 24 Mar, 20:38, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Don that is a shocking thing to hear and you a Police Officer? > > > > > Don't deserve the same level of care as those of US who can afford to > > > > pay? Fuck me that is disgusting. > > > > > You say you see insurance as what it is. So you see it as a game of > > > > chance and profit? That is the insurance company makes profit on the > > > > chance of you never having to make a claim. > > > > > You do not like the idea of socilised health care for all becuase you > > > > would be bored waiting in ques? > > > > > Sorry Lee if I gave wrong impression. I'm not a police officer. I > > > > wouldn't make a very good one I think. I have the wrong temperament. > > > > Sorry you're disgusted. It's not so much that I'll be bored it's that > > > I'll > > > be wasting time for less quality service. Average Americans are taking a > > > hit to line the pockets of special interests and I include the insurance > > > companies among those benefiting. It's a net loss for the American people > > > no matter how you slice it. > > > > I truly, truly hope I'm wrong. > > > > dj > > > > > On 23 Mar, 05:22, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I see insurance as what it is and should be. Something to protect > > > > > your assets should something catastrophic befall you. Such as disease > > > > > or illness or fire or flood. If you have no assets(say, if you're > > > > > dirt poor) ya don't need no stinkin' insurance. That's the way I've > > > > > always seen it. I really don't get how people see something as a > > > > > right that is really nothing of the sort. That doesn't mean that we > > > > > should ignore the poor that are sick but it DOES mean they certainly > > > > > don't deserve the same level of care as those of us who can afford > > > > > better care. > > > > > > I was in court today to take care of some business. I was there for 2 > > > > > and a half hours. I saved roughly 250 dollars by seeing the judge > > > > > and not just paying my tickets. You sit in pews until the row ahead > > > > > of you is empty and then your row moves up one row. Cell phones > > > > > turned off and nobody talking to each other. I sat there bored stiff > > > > > thinking "yeah, in a few years, this is what it will be like at the > > > > > doctors office." I was aching to pop off and say it out loud but was > > > > > scared the judge would hear me. All these big city judges are > > > > > bleeding heart liberals. Last thing I wanted to do was piss off the > > > > > judge. > > > > > > Got me to thinking seeing all these guys and dolls sitting there bored > > > > > out of their minds. They should open up kiosks with hot dogs and > > > > > jewelry and maybe a bar with mixed drinks and sodas while you wait. > > > > > Maybe a bank of those cool poker slot machines. We'd all be a little > > > > > less bored the the city could make a little more profit. Ooops. > > > > > There's the P word. > > > > > > dj > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:17 AM, iam deheretic <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Don You are a Cop and a proud job.. but when they over look the > > > > corruption > > > > > > and miss information to prevent a bill from passing it is a sad > > > > > > day.. > > > > My > > > > > > question to you is this.. when policies of insurance companies > > > > > > make in > > > > the > > > > > > name of freedom and profit are the board of directors and the top > > > > corporate > > > > > > executives held accountable for the murders they they with their > > > > policies > > > > > > committed? > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >> Greetings comrades! Another great leap towards loss of personal > > > > > >> and > > > > > >> financial freedom. We're going so Euro pretty soon I'm going to > > > > > >> stop > > > > > >> taking a shower every day and give up on deodorant. Maybe try some > > > > > >> warm beer as well just for solidarity. > > > > > > >> Seriously, I'm a bit sad today. One bright spot was seeing my > > > > > >> brother > > > > > >> at the protest at the WH. He's there for a class but is free this > > > > > >> weekend to play tourist. He called me and parked himself by the > > > > > >> fox > > > > > >> news camera and I finally spotted him. Looking bored. His answer > > > > > >> to > > > > > >> what he thinks of the HC bill is, "I don't know, I haven't read > > > > > >> it." > > > > > >> Yeah, he voted for Obama. I tried to get him to start a chant, > > > > > >> "Free- > > > > > >> Dom! Free-Dom!" but he wouldn't do it. Wussy. > > > > > > >> They have more votes then they need now. Slaughter House Rules. > > > > > >> Books will be written about this travesty of process and the fraud > > > > > >> being perpetrated by our Congressmen. > > > > > > >> Deficit neutral my left nad. 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