On Mar 25, 9:48 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> This is not some culture  it is known a propaganda,, material with out
> substance,, I noticed the republicans did not talk about the Bush culture
> that ran the national debt up 9 trillion dollars  ..  starting with Regan
> you are in Texas ,, why have you not gone in and arrested Bush for accepting
> a bribe..  if you ask what bribe.. look at that ranch of his . .   a
> political gift unfortunately a bribe remains a bribe no matter what
> politically correct name you give it.

I think you're confusing Bush with Clinton here.  Bush bought his own
farm but has yet to kick the bucket.  I'm a conservative, not a
republican.  I think more along the lines of the Cato Institute.  I
complained bitterly about the increase in the debt under Bush in-
between howling for Hussien's blood.  Lee is correct, of course, in
saying that it shows that power corrupts.  It does.  The difference,
as I see it, is that liberals claim to want equality and enact
intricate laws and subsidize endless 'community organizing' entities
with little to no success and throwing billions at a school system
that is failing this country.  Conservatives want to put the money
directly in the pockets of the consumer to buy the education most
needed by their child.  The vouchers program in D.C. was a great
success until the Dems put a stop to it.

http://educationalissues.suite101.com/article.cfm/tuition_vouchers_in_washington_dc_ending


> You complain loudly about heal care for the masses  but  you jump up and
> down on how you have provided for your health care..  If it was not for the
> masses  you would have no health care  as they are the ones who pay for it
> with their taxes..  and if you really want to pay for your own with out the
> support of the masses ..  well be prepared to lay out the money and a lot of
> it.. I am sure you will be thankful for the new law where you can not be
> refused.. for pre-existing  conditions.

No, I'm not happy with the new rules at all.  I pay my own co pays and
my 20% and my employer provided insurance gets the other.  I think it
would be a good idea if employers weren't allowed to offer health
insurance at all.  Let each individual get the insurance he or she
wants tailored to their needs.  Something like catastrophic
insurance.  This kind of discussion is now moot.  We have what we have
and there's probably no changing it in my lifetime.
>
> Those that are using political influence.. well chances are they are the
> wealthier and more likely they are republican simply because they tend to
> want to use political influence.. Until law enforcement gets away from
> politics.. and starts dealing with political corruption instead of  just
> covering it up..  well  there is not much that can be said..
> Allan
>
I'm all for going after political corruption.  On this topic, we
agree.  Now that the Dems are in power, as Lee has pointed out, they
are the ones abusing power.

dj

>
>
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
> > All this really shows Don is that power corrupts and those in power
> > abuse it.  Like we didn't already know that?
>
> > On 24 Mar, 21:30, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Check out this story, broken yesterday by the Chicago Tribune,
> > > illustrating why "equality" isn't all it's cracked up to be. Unlike
> > > medicine, elementary and secondary education in the U.S. is already
> > > almost completely under political control. Defenders of this
> > > arrangement justify it in the name of equality. They do not claim the
> > > current system achieves that ideal, but they do insist that efforts to
> > > reduce political control via vouchers and other forms of privatization
> > > would make inequality worse.
>
> > > But the Tribune story shows that political control introduces its own
> > > kind of inequality, to benefit the political class:
>
> > >     While many Chicago parents took formal routes to land their
> > > children in the best schools, the well-connected also sought help
> > > through a shadowy appeals system created in recent years under former
> > > schools chief Arne Duncan.
>
> > >     Whispers have long swirled that some children get spots in the
> > > city's premier schools based on whom their parents know. But a list
> > > maintained over several years in Duncan's office and obtained by the
> > > Tribune lends further evidence to those charges. Duncan is now
> > > secretary of education under President Barack Obama.
>
> > >     The log is a compilation of politicians and influential business
> > > people who interceded on behalf of children during Duncan's tenure. It
> > > includes 25 aldermen, Mayor Richard Daley's office, House Speaker
> > > Michael Madigan, his daughter Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan,
> > > former White House social secretary Desiree Rogers and former U.S.
> > > Sen. Carol Moseley Braun.
>
> > >     Non-connected parents, such as those who sought spots for their
> > > special-needs child or who were new to the city, also appear on the
> > > log. But the politically connected make up about three-quarters of
> > > those making requests in the documents obtained by the Tribune.
>
> > > This is "the aristocracy of pull," in Ayn Rand's memorable phrase. Its
> > > existence is probably inevitable inasmuch as government's is, but its
> > > extent can only increase with the power and reach of government.
>
> > > If you and Larry Summers both get sick and need a treatment that the
> > > Medicare Advisory Commission (dysphemistically known as the Death
> > > Panel) deems too expensive, what are the odds that you'll find a way
> > > to get it anyway and he won't? How about the other way around? In the
> > > Soviet Union, those privileged by political connections were called
> > > the nomenklatura. Here, we can call it the Obamaklatura.
>
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