On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 4:58 AM, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> No Don I am not confusing Bush with Clinton.. and if he paid anything at > all for it it was extremely under priced. It was provided by three of his > supporters all of who were rewarded by huge government contracts.. and/or > ambassadorship..(S) Bush was a great rewarder of cronies or those who did > him favors,, and political favors are nothing more than a bribe.. and > bribes are illegal.. but the ones accepting the political bribes are the > very onew who will not change the rules becauses they like their bribes.. > They are very profitable for them and their families. > > There is nothing wrong with being conservative.. that is until policies > start harming people because of greed or a desire to be important like a war > time president.. what often times people call conservative it is turning > out to be another name for greed and selfishness. The republicans in the > name of conservitism have done more harm to the US than any other group.. I > started with the policies of Regan and then carried on.. through later > republican administrations.. all done in the name of money and oil.. if you > don't believe me look at Iraq when it invaded Kuwait.. the bush > administration jumped right on it.. but balkins and all the problems and > genocide there well what can I say No Oil or Gold then they have no value > so no help... > > Both of these incidents (crimes) were committed in the name of conservatism > and greed. > > I agree each person should be able to tailor health insurance for their own > needs the problem there is you really do not know what your needs will be > nor the cost.. fortunately I had the money at the time but the medical cost > relieved me of my retirement nest egg.. (self employed) . When In the US I > have access to the VA health care system from the Vietnam era.. when it > comes to cost I can not help but wonder about it,, because my Father and I > need the same medication mine cost the VA $5.35 and my father had to pay > $87.46 for exactly the same medication from the same manufacturer.. please > explain to me the difference in cost?? One is government run the other comes > from the private sector.. > Allan > > Money doesn't grow on trees. Due to your service to the country(i assume) you have access to the VA. Sounds like your dad's isn't as good. Government is able to underpay drug companies and get away with it because the drug companies need favorable legislation to remain rich. The low cost you pay is made up in the high cost your dad pays. Somebody has to pay. What you call greed I call business. The same with medicare and medicaid. The goverment underpays hospitals and doctors and drug companies and that is made up in the private sector. The private sector generally provides better SERVICE. The wealthy are willing to pay more for better service. That's the way I see it. I looked on the net for details of the Crawford ranch purchase. All I saw was he payed about 1.3 million for what tax records say was worth about $900,000. That's pretty normal. I'm sure now he's made improvements the value has gone up. Give me a link to read about the appointments and what not. Sounds interesting. dj > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:52 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> On Mar 25, 9:48 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: >> > This is not some culture it is known a propaganda,, material with out >> > substance,, I noticed the republicans did not talk about the Bush >> culture >> > that ran the national debt up 9 trillion dollars .. starting with >> Regan >> > you are in Texas ,, why have you not gone in and arrested Bush for >> accepting >> > a bribe.. if you ask what bribe.. look at that ranch of his . . a >> > political gift unfortunately a bribe remains a bribe no matter what >> > politically correct name you give it. >> >> I think you're confusing Bush with Clinton here. Bush bought his own >> farm but has yet to kick the bucket. I'm a conservative, not a >> republican. I think more along the lines of the Cato Institute. I >> complained bitterly about the increase in the debt under Bush in- >> between howling for Hussien's blood. Lee is correct, of course, in >> saying that it shows that power corrupts. It does. The difference, >> as I see it, is that liberals claim to want equality and enact >> intricate laws and subsidize endless 'community organizing' entities >> with little to no success and throwing billions at a school system >> that is failing this country. Conservatives want to put the money >> directly in the pockets of the consumer to buy the education most >> needed by their child. The vouchers program in D.C. was a great >> success until the Dems put a stop to it. >> >> >> http://educationalissues.suite101.com/article.cfm/tuition_vouchers_in_washington_dc_ending >> >> >> > You complain loudly about heal care for the masses but you jump up and >> > down on how you have provided for your health care.. If it was not for >> the >> > masses you would have no health care as they are the ones who pay for >> it >> > with their taxes.. and if you really want to pay for your own with out >> the >> > support of the masses .. well be prepared to lay out the money and a >> lot of >> > it.. I am sure you will be thankful for the new law where you can not be >> > refused.. for pre-existing conditions. >> >> No, I'm not happy with the new rules at all. I pay my own co pays and >> my 20% and my employer provided insurance gets the other. I think it >> would be a good idea if employers weren't allowed to offer health >> insurance at all. Let each individual get the insurance he or she >> wants tailored to their needs. Something like catastrophic >> insurance. This kind of discussion is now moot. We have what we have >> and there's probably no changing it in my lifetime. >> > >> > Those that are using political influence.. well chances are they are the >> > wealthier and more likely they are republican simply because they tend >> to >> > want to use political influence.. Until law enforcement gets away from >> > politics.. and starts dealing with political corruption instead of just >> > covering it up.. well there is not much that can be said.. >> > Allan >> > >> I'm all for going after political corruption. On this topic, we >> agree. Now that the Dems are in power, as Lee has pointed out, they >> are the ones abusing power. >> >> dj >> >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > All this really shows Don is that power corrupts and those in power >> > > abuse it. Like we didn't already know that? >> > >> > > On 24 Mar, 21:30, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > Check out this story, broken yesterday by the Chicago Tribune, >> > > > illustrating why "equality" isn't all it's cracked up to be. Unlike >> > > > medicine, elementary and secondary education in the U.S. is already >> > > > almost completely under political control. Defenders of this >> > > > arrangement justify it in the name of equality. They do not claim >> the >> > > > current system achieves that ideal, but they do insist that efforts >> to >> > > > reduce political control via vouchers and other forms of >> privatization >> > > > would make inequality worse. >> > >> > > > But the Tribune story shows that political control introduces its >> own >> > > > kind of inequality, to benefit the political class: >> > >> > > > While many Chicago parents took formal routes to land their >> > > > children in the best schools, the well-connected also sought help >> > > > through a shadowy appeals system created in recent years under >> former >> > > > schools chief Arne Duncan. >> > >> > > > Whispers have long swirled that some children get spots in the >> > > > city's premier schools based on whom their parents know. But a list >> > > > maintained over several years in Duncan's office and obtained by the >> > > > Tribune lends further evidence to those charges. Duncan is now >> > > > secretary of education under President Barack Obama. >> > >> > > > The log is a compilation of politicians and influential business >> > > > people who interceded on behalf of children during Duncan's tenure. >> It >> > > > includes 25 aldermen, Mayor Richard Daley's office, House Speaker >> > > > Michael Madigan, his daughter Illinois Attorney General Lisa >> Madigan, >> > > > former White House social secretary Desiree Rogers and former U.S. >> > > > Sen. Carol Moseley Braun. >> > >> > > > Non-connected parents, such as those who sought spots for their >> > > > special-needs child or who were new to the city, also appear on the >> > > > log. But the politically connected make up about three-quarters of >> > > > those making requests in the documents obtained by the Tribune. >> > >> > > > This is "the aristocracy of pull," in Ayn Rand's memorable phrase. >> Its >> > > > existence is probably inevitable inasmuch as government's is, but >> its >> > > > extent can only increase with the power and reach of government. >> > >> > > > If you and Larry Summers both get sick and need a treatment that the >> > > > Medicare Advisory Commission (dysphemistically known as the Death >> > > > Panel) deems too expensive, what are the odds that you'll find a way >> > > > to get it anyway and he won't? How about the other way around? In >> the >> > > > Soviet Union, those privileged by political connections were called >> > > > the nomenklatura. 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