Some things change.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoO14Yt9rqw
On Mar 26, 9:24 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 4:58 AM, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > No Don I am not confusing Bush with Clinton.. and if he paid anything at > > all for it it was extremely under priced. It was provided by three of his > > supporters all of who were rewarded by huge government contracts.. and/or > > ambassadorship..(S) Bush was a great rewarder of cronies or those who did > > him favors,, and political favors are nothing more than a bribe.. and > > bribes are illegal.. but the ones accepting the political bribes are the > > very onew who will not change the rules becauses they like their bribes.. > > They are very profitable for them and their families. > > > There is nothing wrong with being conservative.. that is until policies > > start harming people because of greed or a desire to be important like a war > > time president.. what often times people call conservative it is turning > > out to be another name for greed and selfishness. The republicans in the > > name of conservitism have done more harm to the US than any other group.. I > > started with the policies of Regan and then carried on.. through later > > republican administrations.. all done in the name of money and oil.. if you > > don't believe me look at Iraq when it invaded Kuwait.. the bush > > administration jumped right on it.. but balkins and all the problems and > > genocide there well what can I say No Oil or Gold then they have no value > > so no help... > > > Both of these incidents (crimes) were committed in the name of conservatism > > and greed. > > > I agree each person should be able to tailor health insurance for their own > > needs the problem there is you really do not know what your needs will be > > nor the cost.. fortunately I had the money at the time but the medical cost > > relieved me of my retirement nest egg.. (self employed) . When In the US I > > have access to the VA health care system from the Vietnam era.. when it > > comes to cost I can not help but wonder about it,, because my Father and I > > need the same medication mine cost the VA $5.35 and my father had to pay > > $87.46 for exactly the same medication from the same manufacturer.. please > > explain to me the difference in cost?? One is government run the other comes > > from the private sector.. > > Allan > > > Money doesn't grow on trees. Due to your service to the country(i assume) > > you have access to the VA. Sounds like your dad's isn't as good. > Government is able to underpay drug companies and get away with it because > the drug companies need favorable legislation to remain rich. The low cost > you pay is made up in the high cost your dad pays. Somebody has to pay. > What you call greed I call business. The same with medicare and medicaid. > The goverment underpays hospitals and doctors and drug companies and that is > made up in the private sector. The private sector generally provides better > SERVICE. The wealthy are willing to pay more for better service. That's > the way I see it. > > I looked on the net for details of the Crawford ranch purchase. All I saw > was he payed about 1.3 million for what tax records say was worth about > $900,000. That's pretty normal. I'm sure now he's made improvements the > value has gone up. Give me a link to read about the appointments and what > not. Sounds interesting. > > dj > > > > > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:52 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> On Mar 25, 9:48 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > This is not some culture it is known a propaganda,, material with out > >> > substance,, I noticed the republicans did not talk about the Bush > >> culture > >> > that ran the national debt up 9 trillion dollars .. starting with > >> Regan > >> > you are in Texas ,, why have you not gone in and arrested Bush for > >> accepting > >> > a bribe.. if you ask what bribe.. look at that ranch of his . . a > >> > political gift unfortunately a bribe remains a bribe no matter what > >> > politically correct name you give it. > > >> I think you're confusing Bush with Clinton here. Bush bought his own > >> farm but has yet to kick the bucket. I'm a conservative, not a > >> republican. I think more along the lines of the Cato Institute. I > >> complained bitterly about the increase in the debt under Bush in- > >> between howling for Hussien's blood. Lee is correct, of course, in > >> saying that it shows that power corrupts. It does. The difference, > >> as I see it, is that liberals claim to want equality and enact > >> intricate laws and subsidize endless 'community organizing' entities > >> with little to no success and throwing billions at a school system > >> that is failing this country. Conservatives want to put the money > >> directly in the pockets of the consumer to buy the education most > >> needed by their child. The vouchers program in D.C. was a great > >> success until the Dems put a stop to it. > > >>http://educationalissues.suite101.com/article.cfm/tuition_vouchers_in... > > >> > You complain loudly about heal care for the masses but you jump up and > >> > down on how you have provided for your health care.. If it was not for > >> the > >> > masses you would have no health care as they are the ones who pay for > >> it > >> > with their taxes.. and if you really want to pay for your own with out > >> the > >> > support of the masses .. well be prepared to lay out the money and a > >> lot of > >> > it.. I am sure you will be thankful for the new law where you can not be > >> > refused.. for pre-existing conditions. > > >> No, I'm not happy with the new rules at all. I pay my own co pays and > >> my 20% and my employer provided insurance gets the other. I think it > >> would be a good idea if employers weren't allowed to offer health > >> insurance at all. Let each individual get the insurance he or she > >> wants tailored to their needs. Something like catastrophic > >> insurance. This kind of discussion is now moot. We have what we have > >> and there's probably no changing it in my lifetime. > > >> > Those that are using political influence.. well chances are they are the > >> > wealthier and more likely they are republican simply because they tend > >> to > >> > want to use political influence.. Until law enforcement gets away from > >> > politics.. and starts dealing with political corruption instead of just > >> > covering it up.. well there is not much that can be said.. > >> > Allan > > >> I'm all for going after political corruption. On this topic, we > >> agree. Now that the Dems are in power, as Lee has pointed out, they > >> are the ones abusing power. > > >> dj > > >> > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > All this really shows Don is that power corrupts and those in power > >> > > abuse it. Like we didn't already know that? > > >> > > On 24 Mar, 21:30, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > Check out this story, broken yesterday by the Chicago Tribune, > >> > > > illustrating why "equality" isn't all it's cracked up to be. Unlike > >> > > > medicine, elementary and secondary education in the U.S. is already > >> > > > almost completely under political control. Defenders of this > >> > > > arrangement justify it in the name of equality. They do not claim > >> the > >> > > > current system achieves that ideal, but they do insist that efforts > >> to > >> > > > reduce political control via vouchers and other forms of > >> privatization > >> > > > would make inequality worse. > > >> > > > But the Tribune story shows that political control introduces its > >> own > >> > > > kind of inequality, to benefit the political class: > > >> > > > While many Chicago parents took formal routes to land their > >> > > > children in the best schools, the well-connected also sought help > >> > > > through a shadowy appeals system created in recent years under > >> former > >> > > > schools chief Arne Duncan. > > >> > > > Whispers have long swirled that some children get spots in the > >> > > > city's premier schools based on whom their parents know. But a list > >> > > > maintained over several years in Duncan's office and obtained by the > >> > > > Tribune lends further evidence to those charges. Duncan is now > >> > > > secretary of education under President Barack Obama. > > >> > > > The log is a compilation of politicians and influential business > >> > > > people who interceded on behalf of children during Duncan's tenure. > >> It > >> > > > includes 25 aldermen, Mayor Richard Daley's office, House Speaker > >> > > > Michael Madigan, his daughter Illinois Attorney General Lisa > >> Madigan, > >> > > > former White House social secretary Desiree Rogers and former U.S. > >> > > > Sen. Carol Moseley Braun. > > >> > > > Non-connected parents, such as those who sought spots for their > >> > > > special-needs child or who were new to the city, also appear on the > >> > > > log. But the politically connected make up about three-quarters of > >> > > > those making requests in the documents obtained by the Tribune. > > >> > > > This is "the aristocracy of pull," in Ayn Rand's memorable phrase. > >> Its > >> > > > existence is probably inevitable inasmuch as government's is, but > >> its > >> > > > extent can only increase with the power and reach of government. > > >> > > > If you and Larry Summers both get sick and need a treatment that the > >> > > > Medicare Advisory Commission (dysphemistically known as the Death > >> > > > Panel) deems too expensive, what are the odds that you'll find a way > >> > > > to get it anyway and he won't? How about the other way around? In > >> the > >> > > > Soviet Union, those privileged by political connections were called > >> > > > the nomenklatura. 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