On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think those that are guilty should step down, not the "whole lot of > them". >SD > > There is a disproportionately high (in relation to > the population) number of pedophiles, in position of power, with > direct > access to and authority over, children. << Chris > > Disproportionate by what information/statistic? In relation to the > Population based on what data/figures? What hat did you pull this out > I haven't pulled it out of anything, Slip. Part of the numbers are indeed difficult to substantiate, because of the aggressive cover up by the Vatican. 3300 charges were never followed up on due to the priest in question already being dead. Additionally, it's estimated that there are twice as many substantiated cases unreported due to the authoritative nature of the priest. I'll provide some rough numbers below, however, to give you a basis where I've started. The point here is not just the offender in question; it's the organizational structure, well documented, all the way up to the Pope, who hide those crimes, and the offender. Number of catholic priests worldwide: 400,000 and change. http://www.allaboutreligion.org/catholic-priests.htm Number of priests against whom allegations have been substantiated (not the total number actually who have committed said crimes: just under 4400. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_sex_abuse_cases#Scope_and_nature Proportion: 1.5% Percent of pedophiles who are religious: 93% http://www.childmolestationprevention.org/pages/tell_others_the_facts.html Estimated total population who are pedophiles: 4% (which defends your question to me). http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Pedophilia However, it's the number of victims where the numbers become clearly disproportionate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iogaM1XnA0I Over 10,000. Every priest who has been investigated has had between 20-200 victims. It's difficult to quantify hard numbers given the secrecy and cover ups, but I'm certainly not pulling anything out of my ass. > of? > > How large is the Catholic community? 70 million registered Catholics > in 2010, just in the US. > > Those in charge are people just like the rest and should be tried > accordingly under whatever jurisprudence they are held accountable > to. To make a statement like "...the whole lot of them" clearly > exposes a biased anti-religious sentiment and denies the innocence of > many members of religious clergy. > > The news has been littered with numerous teacher sex scandals and > abuses; should we ask all teachers, the "whole lot of them", to step > down? > > Walmart? lmao! Please Chris, Walmart is one of the most corrupt > companies in the world. > > Excerpt; > > ...........calling on Wal-Mart to end its politically corrupt > practices, including donating to corrupt politicians and participating > in a sweetheart deal with the Bush administration on child labor > violations. > http://wakeupwalmart.com/feature/delay/ > > > ..........Wal-Mart squeezes and cheats its employees, among them: > blocking union organizing efforts, paying employees an average $8.23 > an hour (as compared to more than $10 for an average supermarket > worker), allegedly extracting off-the-clock work, and providing > inadequate and unaffordable healthcare packages for employees. > > “There's no question that Wal-Mart imposes a huge, often hidden, cost > on its workers, our communities and U.S. taxpayers,” Miller said. “And > Wal-Mart is in the driver's seat in the global race to the bottom, > suppressing wage levels, workplace protections and labor laws.” > > http://www.corporatenarc.com/walmartscandal.php > > http://www.changetowin.org/connect/2009/06/the_hidden_cost_of_4.html > > > > > > On Mar 27, 8:43 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > With Massive Attack, no less! Brilliant, Gabs, thank you for sharing. > > > > To answer Slip's question about rationality, I disagree strongly that > this > > is a "Few bad apples". There is a disproportionately high (in relation to > > the population) number of pedophiles, in position of power, with direct > > access to and authority over, children. Additionally, the "management", > all > > the way to the executive level (Pope), have engaged in misdirection and > > cover up. Worse, not one single one of these bastards has been arrested. > > They are protected by the Holy See. > > > > If even 1% of Store Managers across the country at Wal-Mart had been > > molesting children, the executive board of Wal-Mart would have done a > major > > purge, permanently banning them from working for the organization, and > > pushed for their incarceration. It's the normal line of PR for an > > organization that doesn't support those actions, and wants to be > dissociated > > from them. The Vatican has been such a target not only for their lack of > > disciplinary or legal action, but their subsequent cover up, and their > utter > > lack of dissociation from these events, in some cases, even blaming the > > victims themselves. Why does the world's richest corporation get such a > free > > pass on this? > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 7:55 AM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > If only she had gotten more attention. I haven't forgotten the song > > > though, which I also stored under "bigland": > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFuTEtBGEtk > > > > > On 27 Mrz., 04:33, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Rational? Have you lost your senses? I think it sounds ridiculous. > > > > Why throw away a bushel of apples on account of a few bad ones. > > > > Should we dismantle the entire political system because some > > > > politicians are butt holes? Should we stop humanitarian aide because > > > > some officials skim money off the top? > > > > > > I think she's an attention freak > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinead_O%27Connor > > > > > > On Mar 26, 4:13 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Interestingly enough, today I heard Shanae O’Connor say on the > radio > > > > > that there should be a criminal investigation of the Pope and the > > > > > entire Vatican [most recent pedophilia scandal] that the entire lot > > > > > should step down. 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