Sorry, Allan, typo .... my post was addressed to Alan W. (with one
"l")! :-)

Francis

On 28 Mrz., 12:11, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> LOL  it is not me in the middle of this..argument.. in my younger wilder
> days  I have to honestly say I don't know.. I do not approve of child abuse
> in any form but that does not say I am not guilty.
> Allan
>
> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 12:03 AM, frantheman 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
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> > One priest molesting a child was one too many. There were far more
> > than one.
>
> > And there remains the issue of the way church authorities dealt with
> > abusers. And the fact that they generally neglected to inform the
> > appropriate civil authorities.
>
> > Allan, you're arguing the wrong issues.
>
> > Francis
>
> > On 27 Mrz., 22:51, Alan Wostenberg <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Chris, see the report on educator sexual abuse commissioned by the US
> > > Department of Education athttp://
> > www2.ed.gov/rschstat/research/pubs/misconductreview/report.pdf
> > > quoted in that piece. The numbers show far more children are sexually
> > > abused by public school educators than by priests.
>
> > > On Mar 27, 2:33 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > This opinion piece was written in 2004, and doesn't have anywhere near
> > > > current data.
>
> > > > I did note that my numbers were harder to quantify. To get an accurate
> > > > percentage, we have to filter out priests who are in seclusion, in
> > > > monasteries, or who in some other way have no public contact on a
> > regular
> > > > basis. If take into account the limited geographical locations where
> > the
> > > > vast majority of the transgressions occurred, you see would see a much
> > > > higher net percentage of priests, in contact with the regular public,
> > who
> > > > have molested children:
>
> > > >http://cara.georgetown.edu/bulletin/
>
> > > > 272,431 diocesan priests
>
> > > > Of those, how many work in diocese have little to no access to
> > children, due
> > > > to population, or environmental restrictions, etc.
>
> > > > Difficult to quantify, but not impossible, if we had all the numbers.
>
> > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Alan Wostenberg <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > On Mar 27, 8:28 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > Number of priests against whom allegations have been substantiated
> > (not
> > > > > the
> > > > > > total number actually who have committed said crimes: just under
> > 4400.
> > > > > So 4400 offenders in the past fifty years, Chris.  They succumbed to
> > > > > sin, to be sure. But according to your numbers, 4% of total
> > population
> > > > > are pedophiles, in comparison to 1.5% of priests.  Our priests are
> > far
> > > > > more faithful to their vows, than the general population.   A child
> > is
> > > > > far more likely to be molested by a public school teacher than a
> > > > > priest, where "between 6 and 10% of children have been abused by a
> > > > > public school teacher" according tohttp://bit.ly/a8JBIq.
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