no problem Needed to look at my self honestly thanks for the thought. Allan
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 12:25 PM, frantheman <[email protected]>wrote: > Sorry, Allan, typo .... my post was addressed to Alan W. (with one > "l")! :-) > > Francis > > On 28 Mrz., 12:11, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > LOL it is not me in the middle of this..argument.. in my younger wilder > > days I have to honestly say I don't know.. I do not approve of child > abuse > > in any form but that does not say I am not guilty. > > Allan > > > > On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 12:03 AM, frantheman < > [email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > One priest molesting a child was one too many. There were far more > > > than one. > > > > > And there remains the issue of the way church authorities dealt with > > > abusers. And the fact that they generally neglected to inform the > > > appropriate civil authorities. > > > > > Allan, you're arguing the wrong issues. > > > > > Francis > > > > > On 27 Mrz., 22:51, Alan Wostenberg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Chris, see the report on educator sexual abuse commissioned by the US > > > > Department of Education athttp:// > > > www2.ed.gov/rschstat/research/pubs/misconductreview/report.pdf > > > > quoted in that piece. The numbers show far more children are sexually > > > > abused by public school educators than by priests. > > > > > > On Mar 27, 2:33 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > This opinion piece was written in 2004, and doesn't have anywhere > near > > > > > current data. > > > > > > > I did note that my numbers were harder to quantify. To get an > accurate > > > > > percentage, we have to filter out priests who are in seclusion, in > > > > > monasteries, or who in some other way have no public contact on a > > > regular > > > > > basis. If take into account the limited geographical locations > where > > > the > > > > > vast majority of the transgressions occurred, you see would see a > much > > > > > higher net percentage of priests, in contact with the regular > public, > > > who > > > > > have molested children: > > > > > > >http://cara.georgetown.edu/bulletin/ > > > > > > > 272,431 diocesan priests > > > > > > > Of those, how many work in diocese have little to no access to > > > children, due > > > > > to population, or environmental restrictions, etc. > > > > > > > Difficult to quantify, but not impossible, if we had all the > numbers. > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Alan Wostenberg <[email protected] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mar 27, 8:28 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Number of priests against whom allegations have been > substantiated > > > (not > > > > > > the > > > > > > > total number actually who have committed said crimes: just > under > > > 4400. > > > > > > So 4400 offenders in the past fifty years, Chris. They succumbed > to > > > > > > sin, to be sure. But according to your numbers, 4% of total > > > population > > > > > > are pedophiles, in comparison to 1.5% of priests. Our priests > are > > > far > > > > > > more faithful to their vows, than the general population. A > child > > > is > > > > > > far more likely to be molested by a public school teacher than a > > > > > > priest, where "between 6 and 10% of children have been abused by > a > > > > > > public school teacher" according tohttp://bit.ly/a8JBIq. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google > > > Groups > > > > > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > > > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > > [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> > <minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups .com> > > > <minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups .com> > > > > > > . > > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> > <minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups .com> > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > I_D Allan > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > > -- ( ) I_D Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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