Well fid if he "ACTUALLY" saw the they must ACTUALLY exist. Perhaps it's a good thing that he did see them. We might be somwhat disturbed as well had we seen them. Still a recovering Roman Catholic! LOL On Mar 28, 12:43 am, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > Thomas Aquinus was a disturbed individual that ACTUALLY saw demons > everywhere. His arguments fell apart when he himself inspected them in > later years. > > On Mar 27, 9:29 am, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Thomas of Aquinas said that one can not know something and believe > > something at the same time. It is my contention, then, if someone > > claims a belief in God that they do not know God. Faith, by definition > > is belief in that wich is unknown and/or the unseen. > > > On Mar 27, 12:18 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Quite a difference between something being an “aid” and being a > > > “concept”, no? > > > > I’m an atheist, so, I voluntarily respond to you asdo. And, as that > > > you start out asking what one thinks, the response to any notions > > > about god or anything else for that matter, would *have* to be > > > conceptual. That is, something of the nature of words and/or > > > concepts. > > > > All such ruminations are subjective by definition so I doubt if you in > > > fact care much about such things. > > > > Now, your last comment/question, asking how one *knows* god…(not being > > > a concept) actually flies in the face of everything you presented > > > prior to that moment. I say this because such knowledge including > > > things like gnosis are beyond or above simple conceptual apprehension. > > > > Perhaps you could rephrase your question(s) in a more coherent way so > > > that we can more easily respond to you, OK? > > > > Thanks! > > > > On Mar 27, 5:55 am, asdofindia <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Atheists needn't reply. > > > > Deep inside your mind, what do you think? > > > > Isn't the God you believe in just a psychological aid? > > > > A concept that you believe in so that you can do more, relax, focus, > > > > and be confident? > > > > > If you think you know that there is a different God, tell me how did > > > > you know him? > > > > (If it's just because somebody else told you, tell me that. If it's > > > > because somebody else told you what to do, and you did that and you > > > > felt him, tell me that. If it's because one day God appeared in your > > > > dream, tell me that.) > > > > > But do tell me how you know that God isn't just a concept- Hide quoted > > > > text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
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