On 12 Apr, 21:29, Alan Wostenberg <[email protected]> wrote: > Actually "Flattened spheres" are impossible, too; it is mathematically > impossible to map a sphere to a plane without distortion. See, for > example,http://math.rice.edu/~pcmi/sphere/gos5.html > > To simplify, the poster may as well ask it of some self-contradiction, > such as "can God create a married bachelor". >
Well, as stated, 'yes'. The bachelor, simply gets married. He loses his bachelor status in the process, though. If both states are required, then logic would say 'no'. However, the modern scientist can always rely on quantum superimposition as an escape clause to any logic involved in how the universe works. Thus, your married bachelor could exist, so long as his surname is Schrodinger. ;-) > On Apr 12, 6:41 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On 6 Apr, 08:33, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Personally I thnk God is what makes for a decent living, but that is > > > strictly a personal concept and not one I expect others to follow or > > > believe. To me God is what makes life worth living and interesting. > > > > Pat said in one of his earlier statement that God could not create a > > > spherical cube and because he could not do that he was limited. > > > Allan > > > He can be limited in a number of ways given His self-definitions. If > > He is One, as He has described Himself, He cannot be two. Nor would > > He be able to recognise any 'other' as God, as any 'other' could only > > be an extension and, thus, a subset of Himself. And no subset is > > equal to the superset of which it is a subset. Nor could He > > represent, in any one object, the entirety of Himself. An Omnipresent > > God cannot create a Hell that is outside His Presence, as some > > purport. An Omniscient God cannot NOT know everything. There are > > many limitations and any logical fallacy cannot have a REAL example. > > > I'm still not convinced that said proof actually proved what it > > purported to prove. I wasn't left with a sense that a spherical cube > > had been 'created' even mathematically. Both a sphere and a cube are > > 3-D solids. One is defined by having 6 flat boundaries and the other > > by one continuously curved boundary. The two definitions rule one > > another out and I don't see a 3-D compromise available. Rounded cubes > > are easy. Flattened spheres are easy. Spherical cube?...nah! It's > > an oxymoron. It would be easier for God to produce proof of Ancient > > Sumerian philately. Cuneiform clay-tablet postage stamps are, at > > least, tangible...or WOULD be. > > > > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:44 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I can take god as a convention for decent living Allan. > > > > > On 5 Apr, 07:16, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I totally agree with you but unfortunately it is part of a God > > > > > defining > > > > > attribute. > > > > > Allan > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 2:28 AM, archytas <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Shape is only a convention in geometry, geometry itself > > > > > > conventional. > > > > > > No need for god or Glasgow. > > > > > > > On 1 Apr, 15:49, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > LMAO! That's a fine one gabby! > > > > > > > > On Apr 1, 9:27 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I saw the picture, too, but didn't find it difficult to see the > > > > > > > > objects as part of a 3D scenario. Join us over at Gravity, too, > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > see what I mean. No strings attached. *laughing* > > > > > > > > > On 1 Apr., 15:07, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On 29 Mar, 16:44, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I would say most of mine was self inflicted! I also have > > > > > > > > > > found > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > hill. as for a spherical cube, it is more than possible, it > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > proven! > > > > > > > > > > > www.math.ias.edu/~arao/pubs/tiling.pdf<http://www.math.ias.edu/%7Earao/pubs/tiling.pdf> > > > > <http://www.math.ias.edu/%7Earao/pubs/tiling.pdf> > > > > > > > > > > I followed your directions of typing in the link and was able > > > > > > > > > to > > > > see > > > > > > > > > the pdf file. The only picture it displays is a 2-D splay of > > > > circles > > > > > > > > > and rounded circular things inside a square. Hardly > > > > > > > > > convincing, > > > > as > > > > > > > > > both a sphere and a cube are 3-D objects. > > > > > > > > > > However, if I take up the argument and agree that the authors > > > > have > > > > > > > > > 'proven' that such a sphereical cube can exist, it demanded > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > existence of more than just 3 spatial dimensions, so, it would > > > > mean > > > > > > > > > that, if God CAN make a sphereical cube, He would have to do > > > > > > > > > so > > > > in a > > > > > > > > > universe that has more dimensions than those recognised by the > > > > > > > > > Standard Model or Quantum Mechanics, and THAT, my friends, > > > > > > > > > lends > > > > more > > > > > > > > > credence to String Theory as being the truth of our universe. > > > > So, If > > > > > > > > > I give in and agree with the authors, then it only backs up MY > > > > > > > > > proposition that String Theory is the truth. So...thanks for > > > > that, > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > it, if anything, lends credence to my own theories. ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 29, 5:47 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually Gabby I do not see how you arrive at the me > > > > > > > > > > > myself > > > > and > > > > > > I? first of > > > > > > > > > > > all I am not the one who originated the statement or > > > > > > > > > > > concept > > > > of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > spherical-cube.. and I feel in reality it is not even > > > > > > > > > > > worthy > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > contemplation.. but it got stuck in my head anyway and > > > > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > answer arrived > > > > > > > > > > > whether it was needed or not. I guess it is in my make up > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > be a > > > > > > > > > > > transcendentalist* so I am not surprised by an answer > > > > > > > > > > > showing > > > > up. > > > > > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > > > The ME ME ME opera is reserved for self-centred people > > > > > > > > > > > who do > > > > not > > > > > > care about > > > > > > > > > > > the well being of others or society, only for themselves. > > > > > > > > > > > If > > > > you > > > > > > feel that > > > > > > > > > > > I am deceiving myself you actually are right in away > > > > > > > > > > > because > > > > I > > > > > > have found a > > > > > > > > > > > hill within me that allows me to deal with a traumatised > > > > > > > > > > > life > > > > > > some of it > > > > > > > > > > > self inflicted some by others.. > > > > > > > > > > > > well as for me.. I will continue inside my delusion of > > > > > > > > > > > calm > > > > and > > > > > > peace were I > > > > > > > > > > > do not have to deal with the raging anger within.. and > > > > > > > > > > > yes > > > > > > there are > > > > > > > > > > > professional people who actually know all about me with > > > > nothing > > > > > > hidden. > > > > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:35 AM, gabbydott < > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah! That's why you criticise the ME-ME-ME opera whereas > > > > > > > > > > > > all > > > > I > > > > > > hear is > > > > > > > > > > > > the me-myself-I. What you call playing on semantics is > > > > > > > > > > > > what > > > > I > > > > > > see as > > > > > > > > > > > > self-deception, which has a lot to do with reality. > > > > Interesting > > > > > > > > > > > > point. ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 29 Mrz., 09:53, iam deheretic <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can God create a spherical - cube? A foolish questions > > > > that > > > > > > is playing on > > > > > > > > > > > > > semantics to try and create an illusionary point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even a > > > > > > foolish question > > > > > > > > > > > > > sometimes deserves an answer. As crazy as it sounds > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > answer is > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes..God > > > > > > > > > > > > > can create a spherical-cube. lol it actually is not > > > > > > difficult to do > > > > > > > > > > > > > either.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think statements like that are needed to boost a > > > > persons > > > > > > ego (easing > > > > > > > > > > > > God > > > > > > > > > > > > > out) and have little to with reality.. It all has to > > > > > > > > > > > > > do > > > > with > > > > > > how you view > > > > > > > > > > > > > the subject. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > ( > > > > > > > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > Google Groups > > > > > > > > > > > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > > > > > > > > > > > To post to this group, send email to > > > > > > [email protected]. > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]<minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups > > > > > > > > > > > > .com> > > > > <minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups .com> > > > > > > <minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups .com> > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > > > > > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > ( > > > > > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > > > > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > Groups > > > > > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > > > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > > [email protected]<minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups > > > > > > .com> > > > > <minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups .com> > > > > > > . > > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > > > > > ( > > > > > ) > > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > Groups > > > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > [email protected]<minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups > > > > .com> > > > > . > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > > > > -- > > > ( > > > ) > > > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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