Pat you asked what the speed of light has to do with it. actually quite a bit.. with a directional speed of the speed of light ,, there is little to no light traveling in other directions beyond the event horizon. With all light locked into rotation.. there is none avaliable to escape. Allan
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 21 Apr, 16:16, Drafterman <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Apr 16, 11:44 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > I was thinking about quasars this week and what they might be and > > > stumbled across something interesting that I thought I might share > > > with you. Firstly, my thought was that a quasar might just be a black > > > hole with a white hole at the centre. Probably NOT a new thought, but > > > it led me to work out what a white hole MIGHT be. I thought that, > > > perhaps, a white hole is an area of space that is completely filled. > > > But how could that happen? Well, if the pressures inside the black > > > hole are strong enough to compress the energy inside to the smallest > > > wavelength possible, that of the Planck length, then THAT would > > > completely fill that area of space-time with tiny, but incredibly > > > powerful photons. > > > SO, here’s some of the maths: Start with the speed of light: > > > 299,792,458 metres per second. Now, divide that number by the Planck > > > length of 1.616252^-35. That comes out to a frequency of 1.8548621^ > > > +49 Hz. () Now, assuming that area is a bog-standard “black body”, > > > it would produce a temperature of 5.3749609522385^+39 degrees Kelvin. > > > And THAT, my friends, is, technically, the hottest temperature > > > allowable in this universe and, thus, the opposite end of the Kelvin > > > scale. Well, at least the highest temperature one could expect to > > > find in THIS universe. > > > So, if a white hole, as described above, were to exist inside a > > > super-massive black hole, when any matter from the black hole’s > > > accretion disc fell into the black hole, it would approach the white > > > hole and get thrown out at right angles (i.e., the matter would spew > > > from the poles, as black holes are spinning) and THAT seems to fit the > > > observations we see of what quasars do. Any thoughts, anyone? > > > > There is a relationship between quasars and black holes and there > > *may* be a relationship between black holes and white holes (if the > > latter even exists). > > > > As matter falls into a black hole, it heats up and emits radiation. In > > the case of super-massive blackholes, as is sometimes found in the > > centers of galaxies, this reaction produces a lot of energy which we > > then interpret as quasars. > > > > Like black holes, white holes are a theoretical consequence of general > > relativity but, unlike black holes, have yet to be empirically > > observed. > > Yup. Just like Hawking Radiation. Shows why he never got a Nobel > Prize. Although, I'm all for giving him a Nobel Prize for Sci-Fi > Literature. His theories are great on paper, just so long as you > completely disregard reality as we know it. At least I try to keep > within the framework. Whereas he demands us to accept that the laws > of physics can break down and sho no evidence of that (example, his > theoretical wavelengths that are shorter than the Planck Length). I > don't care much for singularities, either. Which is why my definition > of a 'white hole' is just an area/volume of space-time that is > completely filled (and in complete accordance with the laws of physics > as we know them), rather than some black hole turned inside-out. > Perhaps white holes haven't been empirically observed because they, as > I purport, only can exist insode of super-massive black holes and the > surrounding blackness prohibits us from observing the whiteness...if > you see what I mean? > > >While there are many hypotheses floating around that > > establish relationships between black holes and white holes (such as a > > black hole creating a "Big Bang" which creates another universe which > > would, from its point of view, interpret that as a white hole) I > > haven't seen anything that establishes a direct relationship betwen > > white holes and quasars. From what I've seen the consensus is that the > > energy of a quasar comes from *outside* the black hole. > > > > The truth, I'm afraid, might elude us for some time, as it's bloody > dangerous to get too close to one; plus, they're all fairly far away > and would take scores of generations to reach one, and we just don't > have the technology for that. So we'll have to settle for seeing what > we can see from our relatively safe distance. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> > . > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> > . > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > > -- ( ) I_D Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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