You know i am more likely to be friends with the 'Nowhere man' rather than enlightened man... the enlightened man seems too unreal...the way perfect is always flawed..
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > Better in what way? > > On Jun 14, 8:43 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think we need a better form of social rebellion. > > > > On 14 June, 12:00, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > In this context your reminder that no man was an island makes better > > > sense to me. Accepted. > > > > > On 14 Jun., 11:04, ashok tewari <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Ah, my dear, it's not about accepting or not accepting the competing > egos. > > > > They're everywhere. And, social media is really irrelevant ; they > wouldn't > > > > make ( even ) a genius the least bit better. > > > > > > It is about accepting or not accepting the likes of Jesus, Benjamin > > > > Franklin, Descartes, Spinoza, Kierkegaard, Camus, Vivekananda ... who > > > > excelled in their spirit and life, knowledge, skills, thought, speech > or > > > > action ! > > > > > > Because we, the others, are so busy with our smallness, as to refuse > to > > > > concede and accept greatness anywhere, much less in another human > being. > > > > Some even sound very ' principled !' > > > > > > Quote : When a man attains mastery over himself and his craft, even > his > > > > failures become the stepping stones for others to succeed. Unquote > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:12 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > In your either/or distinctiveness you sound a lot like Kierkegaard, > > > > > Vam. Hasn't social media made life easier in this respect? What is > > > > > there not to accept about them competing egos out there? Ain't that > > > > > the more appropriate question? > > > > > > > On 14 Jun., 05:36, vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > The phenomenon is actually simple. It arises from the nature of > the > > > > > > ego, which in its essence is competitive. > > > > > > > > Any person who displays excellence of attitude, knowledge, skill, > > > > > > thought, speech or action ... constantly departing from the > common and > > > > > > the accepted or expected ... possessions do not move him, power > does > > > > > > not interest him, knowledge arises in him as required or > necessary > > > > > > without him having to keep it under lock and key ... he can only > be > > > > > > either banished from our midst or be accepted as a much loved > leader > > > > > > and highly regarded teacher. > > > > > > > > That kind of acceptance is rarely possible, less so in our > > > > > > democratised society, where everyone is a leader and a teacher, > none > > > > > > for more than a few formal minutes, hours, days, weeks or months > ! > > > > > > > > On Jun 14, 12:54 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Given the quote is from Osho, I would guess he refers to the > > > > > > > illuminated man, but then, I would only be guessing at the use > of your > > > > > > > phrase also. > > > > > > > > > On Jun 13, 1:36 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Which enlightened man is meant in this/in your context: the > > > > > instructed > > > > > > > > man or the illuminated man? > > > > > > > > > > On 13 Jun., 17:58, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > "People are afraid, very much afraid of those who know > themselves. > > > > > > > > > They have a certain power, a certain aura and a certain > magnetism, > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > charisma that can take out alive, young people from the > traditional > > > > > > > > > imprisonment.... > > > > > > > > > > > The enlightened man cannot be enslaved - that is the > difficulty - > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > he cannot be imprisoned.... Every genius who has known > something of > > > > > > > > > the inner is bound to be a little difficult to be absorbed; > he is > > > > > > > > > going to be an upsetting force. The masses don't want to be > > > > > disturbed, > > > > > > > > > even though they may be in misery; they are in misery, but > they are > > > > > > > > > accustomed to the misery. And anybody who is not miserable > looks > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > a stranger. > > > > > > > > > > > The enlightened man is the greatest stranger in the world; > he does > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > seem to belong to anybody. No organization confines him, no > > > > > community, > > > > > > > > > no society, no nation." -- Osho The Zen Manifesto: Freedom > from > > > > > > > > > Oneself Chapter 9 > > > > > > > > > > > Have you known rebels that make you uncomfortable? Is > there a > > > > > rebel > > > > > > > > > in you that makes others uncomfortable? Is the rebel in > you able > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > break barriers (especially internal?) With what results? > > > > > > > > > > > What do YOU think?- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > -- > > > > ASHOK TEWARI- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - -- \--/ Peace
