yeah.. thats wat my point is.. the nowhere man is the imperfect perfection...
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 2:02 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > Na, you've got to see it positively! This is what they mean by "true > perfection is imperfect". This is where Pat's omnieverything God draws > his juice from. :-) > > On 17 Jun., 21:15, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote: > > You know i am more likely to be friends with the 'Nowhere man' rather > > than enlightened man... the enlightened man seems too unreal...the way > > perfect is always flawed.. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Better in what way? > > > > > On Jun 14, 8:43 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I think we need a better form of social rebellion. > > > > > > On 14 June, 12:00, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > In this context your reminder that no man was an island makes > better > > > > > sense to me. Accepted. > > > > > > > On 14 Jun., 11:04, ashok tewari <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Ah, my dear, it's not about accepting or not accepting the > competing > > > egos. > > > > > > They're everywhere. And, social media is really irrelevant ; > they > > > wouldn't > > > > > > make ( even ) a genius the least bit better. > > > > > > > > It is about accepting or not accepting the likes of Jesus, > Benjamin > > > > > > Franklin, Descartes, Spinoza, Kierkegaard, Camus, Vivekananda ... > who > > > > > > excelled in their spirit and life, knowledge, skills, thought, > speech > > > or > > > > > > action ! > > > > > > > > Because we, the others, are so busy with our smallness, as to > refuse > > > to > > > > > > concede and accept greatness anywhere, much less in another human > > > being. > > > > > > Some even sound very ' principled !' > > > > > > > > Quote : When a man attains mastery over himself and his craft, > even > > > his > > > > > > failures become the stepping stones for others to succeed. > Unquote > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:12 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > In your either/or distinctiveness you sound a lot like > Kierkegaard, > > > > > > > Vam. Hasn't social media made life easier in this respect? What > is > > > > > > > there not to accept about them competing egos out there? Ain't > that > > > > > > > the more appropriate question? > > > > > > > > > On 14 Jun., 05:36, vamadevananda <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > The phenomenon is actually simple. It arises from the nature > of > > > the > > > > > > > > ego, which in its essence is competitive. > > > > > > > > > > Any person who displays excellence of attitude, knowledge, > skill, > > > > > > > > thought, speech or action ... constantly departing from the > > > common and > > > > > > > > the accepted or expected ... possessions do not move him, > power > > > does > > > > > > > > not interest him, knowledge arises in him as required or > > > necessary > > > > > > > > without him having to keep it under lock and key ... he can > only > > > be > > > > > > > > either banished from our midst or be accepted as a much loved > > > leader > > > > > > > > and highly regarded teacher. > > > > > > > > > > That kind of acceptance is rarely possible, less so in our > > > > > > > > democratised society, where everyone is a leader and a > teacher, > > > none > > > > > > > > for more than a few formal minutes, hours, days, weeks or > months > > > ! > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 14, 12:54 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Given the quote is from Osho, I would guess he refers to > the > > > > > > > > > illuminated man, but then, I would only be guessing at the > use > > > of your > > > > > > > > > phrase also. > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 13, 1:36 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Which enlightened man is meant in this/in your context: > the > > > > > > > instructed > > > > > > > > > > man or the illuminated man? > > > > > > > > > > > > On 13 Jun., 17:58, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > "People are afraid, very much afraid of those who know > > > themselves. > > > > > > > > > > > They have a certain power, a certain aura and a certain > > > magnetism, > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > charisma that can take out alive, young people from the > > > traditional > > > > > > > > > > > imprisonment.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > The enlightened man cannot be enslaved - that is the > > > difficulty - > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > he cannot be imprisoned.... Every genius who has known > > > something of > > > > > > > > > > > the inner is bound to be a little difficult to be > absorbed; > > > he is > > > > > > > > > > > going to be an upsetting force. The masses don't want > to be > > > > > > > disturbed, > > > > > > > > > > > even though they may be in misery; they are in misery, > but > > > they are > > > > > > > > > > > accustomed to the misery. And anybody who is not > miserable > > > looks > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > a stranger. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The enlightened man is the greatest stranger in the > world; > > > he does > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > seem to belong to anybody. No organization confines > him, no > > > > > > > community, > > > > > > > > > > > no society, no nation." -- Osho The Zen Manifesto: > Freedom > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > Oneself Chapter 9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you known rebels that make you uncomfortable? Is > > > there a > > > > > > > rebel > > > > > > > > > > > in you that makes others uncomfortable? Is the rebel > in > > > you able > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > break barriers (especially internal?) With what > results? > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do YOU think?- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > ASHOK TEWARI- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > \--/ Peace > -- \--/ Peace
