Slip…I guess I hadn’t heard you call what I share here at ME a
delusion before. Perhaps I just missed it.

This is assuming that the OM here represents me. “…is it like mind
alternative, cj's cannabis, om's
delusion or gruff's world of reality?...” - SD

In the spirit of rationality and supporting claims, I’d appreciate
some from you on it, OK? Thanks!


On Aug 26, 7:07 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> "If humans lived even a little more
> often in this last state of mind, the impact on world peace, from a
> personal to a global level, would be significant" - MB
>
> I don't know that I could concur with such notion, many throughout
> history have lived within enlightened states of mind and still chaos
> ensued, maybe I need a little more elaboration on what you consider
> the "state of mind"; is it like mind alternative, cj's cannabis, om's
> delusion or gruff's world of reality?.  Basically any peaceful state
> of mind could lead to global peace when adopted by the entire populous
> of planet earth but then there wouldn't be much left to free thought
> and free will; we might as well be like animals that operate on
> instinct.
> Personally I don't think the idea is to waste any more time than
> necessary in this place because my notion is that there is another
> place more suitable for those of peaceful demeanor; I guess that is
> the core idea of heaven and hell.  Trying to turn planet earth into a
> peaceful utopia is like trying to separate the water from the feces in
> a septic tank with a fork.  It is not about "here" and that is why it
> goes "only the good die young" because they are ready to move on to
> wherever; possibly to a parallel universe, another plane of existence
> or remain in some pleasant dreamscape; it really doesn't matter to me
> at all because, as you know, I'm just a voyeur and don't give a damn
> if the whole place implodes. Hey, I'm not a real gynecologist but I"m
> willing to take a look. ;-)
>
> "When humans understand that a thought is just a thought, just a
> creation from formless energy, the iron grip the ego can have on us
> begins to lessen." - MB
>
> Very assumptive here Molly, creation from formless energy, iron grip
> and lessening on the basis of simply understanding.
> We have yet to even scratch the surface of what thought is and what
> can manifest from it.  Perhaps life itself and all awareness is
> resultant of thought, whether from a collective human thought or from
> some external, spiritual or supreme consciousness.  Nothing is
> formless, everything can have some degree of form even if we are
> unaware of it's form.  I've never seen any angels but I guess they
> have some kind of form if you believe they exist.  I've experience
> apparitions of dead people and as you know within the dream realm I've
> encountered numerous souls beyond this world. Again I have to say that
> life is beyond "here", beyond what we know, what we see, what we
> experience and what we expect.
>
> "So, our personal answer is to share with people these simple
> principles that govern their states of mind. Because, beneath it all,
> all humans are already wise, good, generous, kind and even
> enlightened." - MB
>
> Really?  Do we just go out and tell people their state of mind is
> skewed?  Do you know the wench that works at the market where I shop?
> I would like you to share the simple principles her and hope you don't
> get your nose bit off.  I'm sure beneath it all she is wise, good and
> generous but on top of the beneath the woman is totally beast.
>
> However, I have to give you credit for your dream fantasy excursion.
>
> Now you do have some good points there Molly but don't we all when it
> comes down to ............"If Only People Would..(blurb) life would be
> perfect.  Basically that means............If there weren't so many
> assholes in the world wouldn't it be a great place to live?
>
> You Betcha!
>
> I dare you to knock that off my shoulder (old commercial).  Kiss me
> first to lesson the shock.
>
> On Aug 26, 8:56 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Mind: All human beings share in being a part of, and connected to
> > Mind, the universal Life energy and source of intelligence beyond the
> > brain. Because of Mind, we share in an endless flow of wisdom—each of
> > us equally capable of being wise.
>
> > Consciousness: All human beings share in the principle or fact of
> > Consciousness. We experience life. We also experience life from
> > different levels of consciousness—from truncated and fear-based, angry
> > and insecure “levels” to grounded, secure, safe, wise and even
> > enlightened states (Buddha Mind, Christ Consciousness, the “Father
> > within,” the Kingdom of Heaven.) If humans lived even a little more
> > often in this last state of mind, the impact on world peace, from a
> > personal to a global level, would be significant.
>
> > The principle of Thought, as a universal function, guides humans
> > either toward or away from non-violence, love and compassion. The
> > existence of a personal thought system, or “ego”—which we see as
> > simply being a sticky attachment to, or identification with thoughts—
> > trips up our noble aspirations for peace. Yet we have found that
> > teaching people about the neutral fact of Thought, and how it creates
> > reality for each of us (rather than attempting to change “content”),
> > allows people to shine the light of this principle on all their
> > thinking. Levels of consciousness jump as people gain understanding
> > about the formless source of all ideas, beliefs and opinions.
>
> > When humans understand that a thought is just a thought, just a
> > creation from formless energy, the iron grip the ego can have on us
> > begins to lessen. Lighter, gentler, more inspired feelings arising
> > from impersonal, or universal thoughts create kind and selfless
> > behaviors. We begin to realize we are so much more than our limited
> > thoughts. So much more than we ever “thought”! While respecting our
> > own and others’ traditions, cultures and preferences, we see beyond
> > the forms that humans have created—and to the deeper truth of our
> > common divinity, our shared existence in universal Mind, Consciousness
> > and Thought … or in Life. From this vantage point, there is no reason
> > to argue, to fight, to hurt another. When I hurt you, I diminish me.
>
> > So, our personal answer is to share with people these simple
> > principles that govern their states of mind. Because, beneath it all,
> > all humans are already wise, good, generous, kind and even
> > enlightened. When the clouds of thought begin to part, they each take
> > their unique and radiant place in being one in “six billion paths to
> > peace.
>
> > What do YOU think?
>
> > See also Sydney Banks, “The Missing Link: Reflections on Life and
> > Philosophy” & other works.
>
> >http://www.centerforsustainablechange.org/principles.php

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