Sorry RP your individuality is for eternity, just claiming otherwise does not exclude you from responsibility of your actions. You would not accept the proof anyway so why should I provide it? Allan
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 10:51 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > The individual identity is for a lifetime only just as this body. After > death the elements go to the elements and the self-sense becomes one with > the source of which it is just an emanation. As for proofs could you kindly > prove the survival after death of the individual consciousness. Could you > prove how everything came out of nothing at the time of the big-bang. How > could individual consciousness come out of death , because in effect you are > saying that by negating the existence of the Spirit. > > > On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 1:03 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > >> ..............go to the spirit? What spirit? What is this spirit and >> what evidence do you have that it exists? Even if it is so how is it >> that individual identity is lost? How do you derive such conclusion? >> >> On Sep 5, 1:31 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> > The elements which make up the human body go into their elemental form >> after >> > death and self-sense or consciousness go to the Spirit , or Atman and >> > loses its individual identity. >> > >> > On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > ether-space? Is that like e-space? ;-) >> > >> > > The five elements "go back" or just remain a part of cosmos in >> > > different form? >> > >> > > Do they really have to go anywhere? These elements are all around us. >> > >> > > On Sep 5, 11:32 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > When an organism dies , the five elements go back to the five cosmic >> > > > elements and the self-sense goes back to the Atman ,or Spirit if >> you >> > > like. >> > > > The five elements are-- Solid matter , air , liquid , temperature >> and >> > > > ether- space. >> > >> > > > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:36 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > Consciousness is not something out of the world , it is simply an >> > > attribute >> > > > > of life. As long as an organism is alive it has consciousness to >> some >> > > level >> > > > > or the other. Mind and understanding are not intangible but are >> merely >> > > > > functions of different parts of the brain. We are connected to the >> > > Absolute >> > > > > through our bodies and being alive is a proof of the existence of >> the >> > > > > Spirit or God. >> > >> > > > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Molly <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > > > >> Mind: All human beings share in being a part of, and connected to >> > > > >> Mind, the universal Life energy and source of intelligence beyond >> the >> > > > >> brain. Because of Mind, we share in an endless flow of >> wisdom—each of >> > > > >> us equally capable of being wise. >> > >> > > > >> Consciousness: All human beings share in the principle or fact of >> > > > >> Consciousness. We experience life. We also experience life from >> > > > >> different levels of consciousness—from truncated and fear-based, >> angry >> > > > >> and insecure “levels” to grounded, secure, safe, wise and even >> > > > >> enlightened states (Buddha Mind, Christ Consciousness, the >> “Father >> > > > >> within,” the Kingdom of Heaven.) If humans lived even a little >> more >> > > > >> often in this last state of mind, the impact on world peace, from >> a >> > > > >> personal to a global level, would be significant. >> > >> > > > >> The principle of Thought, as a universal function, guides humans >> > > > >> either toward or away from non-violence, love and compassion. The >> > > > >> existence of a personal thought system, or “ego”—which we see as >> > > > >> simply being a sticky attachment to, or identification with >> thoughts— >> > > > >> trips up our noble aspirations for peace. Yet we have found that >> > > > >> teaching people about the neutral fact of Thought, and how it >> creates >> > > > >> reality for each of us (rather than attempting to change >> “content”), >> > > > >> allows people to shine the light of this principle on all their >> > > > >> thinking. Levels of consciousness jump as people gain >> understanding >> > > > >> about the formless source of all ideas, beliefs and opinions. >> > >> > > > >> When humans understand that a thought is just a thought, just a >> > > > >> creation from formless energy, the iron grip the ego can have on >> us >> > > > >> begins to lessen. Lighter, gentler, more inspired feelings >> arising >> > > > >> from impersonal, or universal thoughts create kind and selfless >> > > > >> behaviors. We begin to realize we are so much more than our >> limited >> > > > >> thoughts. So much more than we ever “thought”! While respecting >> our >> > > > >> own and others’ traditions, cultures and preferences, we see >> beyond >> > > > >> the forms that humans have created—and to the deeper truth of our >> > > > >> common divinity, our shared existence in universal Mind, >> Consciousness >> > > > >> and Thought … or in Life. From this vantage point, there is no >> reason >> > > > >> to argue, to fight, to hurt another. When I hurt you, I diminish >> me. >> > >> > > > >> So, our personal answer is to share with people these simple >> > > > >> principles that govern their states of mind. Because, beneath it >> all, >> > > > >> all humans are already wise, good, generous, kind and even >> > > > >> enlightened. When the clouds of thought begin to part, they each >> take >> > > > >> their unique and radiant place in being one in “six billion paths >> to >> > > > >> peace. >> > >> > > > >> What do YOU think? >> > >> > > > >> See also Sydney Banks, “The Missing Link: Reflections on Life and >> > > > >> Philosophy” & other works. >> > >> > > > >>http://www.centerforsustainablechange.org/principles.php >> > > -- ( ) I_D Allan Be Paranoid. God is always building a better idiot!!!
