When you talk about the soul or spirit , you are referring to individuals. When I speak of the Spirit I refer to the source of all creation including yourself.
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > Ah, but we have reached the apex. I never negated the existence of > spirit, nor soul but I surely don't go around insisting that my > theories "are" the way of it. You on the other hand are authoritative > in approach. But I think you are really just trying to express that > you have figured it all out and have put together something that you > have convinced yourself is truth and take on this role as teacher in > the hopes of developing a following of guru groupies looking for an > enlightened leader. I'm sure in time you'll have a gathering of such > because there are many out there wanting to be duped. In the meantime > don't try to purport to know what no one really knows. The ball has > been bounced around for thousands of years and still has yet to stop > bouncing. > > On Sep 6, 3:51 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > The individual identity is for a lifetime only just as this body. After > > death the elements go to the elements and the self-sense becomes one with > > the source of which it is just an emanation. As for proofs could you > kindly > > prove the survival after death of the individual consciousness. Could you > > prove how everything came out of nothing at the time of the big-bang. > How > > could individual consciousness come out of death , because in effect you > are > > saying that by negating the existence of the Spirit. > > > > On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 1:03 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > ..............go to the spirit? What spirit? What is this spirit and > > > what evidence do you have that it exists? Even if it is so how is it > > > that individual identity is lost? How do you derive such conclusion? > > > > > On Sep 5, 1:31 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > The elements which make up the human body go into their elemental > form > > > after > > > > death and self-sense or consciousness go to the Spirit , or Atman > and > > > > loses its individual identity. > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > ether-space? Is that like e-space? ;-) > > > > > > > The five elements "go back" or just remain a part of cosmos in > > > > > different form? > > > > > > > Do they really have to go anywhere? These elements are all around > us. > > > > > > > On Sep 5, 11:32 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > When an organism dies , the five elements go back to the five > cosmic > > > > > > elements and the self-sense goes back to the Atman ,or Spirit if > you > > > > > like. > > > > > > The five elements are-- Solid matter , air , liquid , > temperature > > > and > > > > > > ether- space. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:36 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > Consciousness is not something out of the world , it is simply > an > > > > > attribute > > > > > > > of life. As long as an organism is alive it has consciousness > to > > > some > > > > > level > > > > > > > or the other. Mind and understanding are not intangible but are > > > merely > > > > > > > functions of different parts of the brain. We are connected to > the > > > > > Absolute > > > > > > > through our bodies and being alive is a proof of the existence > of > > > the > > > > > > > Spirit or God. > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Molly <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >> Mind: All human beings share in being a part of, and connected > to > > > > > > >> Mind, the universal Life energy and source of intelligence > beyond > > > the > > > > > > >> brain. Because of Mind, we share in an endless flow of > wisdom—each > > > of > > > > > > >> us equally capable of being wise. > > > > > > > > >> Consciousness: All human beings share in the principle or fact > of > > > > > > >> Consciousness. We experience life. We also experience life > from > > > > > > >> different levels of consciousness—from truncated and > fear-based, > > > angry > > > > > > >> and insecure “levels” to grounded, secure, safe, wise and even > > > > > > >> enlightened states (Buddha Mind, Christ Consciousness, the > “Father > > > > > > >> within,” the Kingdom of Heaven.) If humans lived even a little > > > more > > > > > > >> often in this last state of mind, the impact on world peace, > from > > > a > > > > > > >> personal to a global level, would be significant. > > > > > > > > >> The principle of Thought, as a universal function, guides > humans > > > > > > >> either toward or away from non-violence, love and compassion. > The > > > > > > >> existence of a personal thought system, or “ego”—which we see > as > > > > > > >> simply being a sticky attachment to, or identification with > > > thoughts— > > > > > > >> trips up our noble aspirations for peace. Yet we have found > that > > > > > > >> teaching people about the neutral fact of Thought, and how it > > > creates > > > > > > >> reality for each of us (rather than attempting to change > > > “content”), > > > > > > >> allows people to shine the light of this principle on all > their > > > > > > >> thinking. Levels of consciousness jump as people gain > > > understanding > > > > > > >> about the formless source of all ideas, beliefs and opinions. > > > > > > > > >> When humans understand that a thought is just a thought, just > a > > > > > > >> creation from formless energy, the iron grip the ego can have > on > > > us > > > > > > >> begins to lessen. Lighter, gentler, more inspired feelings > arising > > > > > > >> from impersonal, or universal thoughts create kind and > selfless > > > > > > >> behaviors. We begin to realize we are so much more than our > > > limited > > > > > > >> thoughts. So much more than we ever “thought”! While > respecting > > > our > > > > > > >> own and others’ traditions, cultures and preferences, we see > > > beyond > > > > > > >> the forms that humans have created—and to the deeper truth of > our > > > > > > >> common divinity, our shared existence in universal Mind, > > > Consciousness > > > > > > >> and Thought … or in Life. From this vantage point, there is no > > > reason > > > > > > >> to argue, to fight, to hurt another. When I hurt you, I > diminish > > > me. > > > > > > > > >> So, our personal answer is to share with people these simple > > > > > > >> principles that govern their states of mind. Because, beneath > it > > > all, > > > > > > >> all humans are already wise, good, generous, kind and even > > > > > > >> enlightened. When the clouds of thought begin to part, they > each > > > take > > > > > > >> their unique and radiant place in being one in “six billion > paths > > > to > > > > > > >> peace. > > > > > > > > >> What do YOU think? > > > > > > > > >> See also Sydney Banks, “The Missing Link: Reflections on Life > and > > > > > > >> Philosophy” & other works. > > > > > > > > >>http://www.centerforsustainablechange.org/principles.php >
