This is all true Allan, and I guess some may argue that such choice
limited by your enviroment and and experiance is no choice at all.  I
would argue though that it is more than possible to overcome the
restrictions of your enviroment and experiances in the making of who
you are(or who you want to be).

On Nov 18, 11:23 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> To me everyone has choice and our environment and experience play major
> roles,, but each person have an total free will choice in their actions,
> even if they do not like the consequences am extreme example would be: 'cost
> you the lives of your family and loved ones if you chose the right thing,'
> you still have the choice like it or not.
> You make your choices based on your values which are a product of you
> experience and environment.
> Allan
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> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:02 AM, [email protected] <
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> [email protected]> wrote:
> > Ohh how I disagree with this.
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> > It is clear that who we are, our very personalities are made from not
> > only our experiances but our enviroment.  Are we really not free
> > though to make of ourselves something other than what we are?
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> > Yes yes of course we are.  The key is understanding, if we can
> > understand what in our lives has made us  'Us' then we can surly
> > change  any mannor we wish.  Of course this must be true or things
> > like cognative therapy would just not work.
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> > On Nov 16, 3:29 pm, RP <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Man is bound by his actions and bound to his experiences. Whatever
> > > actions have to be done man is bound by them , as also whatever
> > > experiences he undergoes he is bound to them. People say marriages are
> > > made in heaven , I say every action and every experience is destined
> > > in heaven. In big things we are able to accept bondage but in small
> > > things we think we are free , we are able to accept the importance of
> > > our genes as also our environment , but our reason finds it hard to
> > > understand and accept complete bondage.
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> I_D Allan
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> Be Paranoid.
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