Does one have the right to sacrifice the lives of others or is this
the height of hubris? It seems to me the major concern is to keep a
family "safe" from harm but that depends on the values of the
individual and involves sacrifice which is not a very popular virtue.
One might extend this to the society that engages in wars and other
murky actions- the further removed the less ability to control the
consequences. This would also apply to laws that are not always fair-
the greater good does not cover all circumstances. And certainly we
know or have read of individuals whose potential gets lost or wasted
within a particular culture. Maybe that person achieves value in a
different time slot of history or family memory.//Despite the power of
fate and destiny or circumstance and enviornment, it seems to me that
the individual still strives with a short list- to have mattered- to
the gods and oneself- and that often takes a peculiar path.// Also-
there is always concern for ones children but legal responsibilty ends
at a certain age- usually 18. That seems so young and immature to me
at this point- like a seedling put out in chilly April.

On Nov 18, 5:23 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> To me everyone has choice and our environment and experience play major
> roles,, but each person have an total free will choice in their actions,
> even if they do not like the consequences am extreme example would be: 'cost
> you the lives of your family and loved ones if you chose the right thing,'
> you still have the choice like it or not.
> You make your choices based on your values which are a product of you
> experience and environment.
> Allan
>
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:02 AM, [email protected] <
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> [email protected]> wrote:
> > Ohh how I disagree with this.
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> > It is clear that who we are, our very personalities are made from not
> > only our experiances but our enviroment.  Are we really not free
> > though to make of ourselves something other than what we are?
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> > Yes yes of course we are.  The key is understanding, if we can
> > understand what in our lives has made us  'Us' then we can surly
> > change  any mannor we wish.  Of course this must be true or things
> > like cognative therapy would just not work.
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> > On Nov 16, 3:29 pm, RP <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Man is bound by his actions and bound to his experiences. Whatever
> > > actions have to be done man is bound by them , as also whatever
> > > experiences he undergoes he is bound to them. People say marriages are
> > > made in heaven , I say every action and every experience is destined
> > > in heaven. In big things we are able to accept bondage but in small
> > > things we think we are free , we are able to accept the importance of
> > > our genes as also our environment , but our reason finds it hard to
> > > understand and accept complete bondage.
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> I_D Allan
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> Be Paranoid.
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