Sorry, Lee. This is was none of my intensions. I meant to bring in another
time-space perspective to the 'flatness' of our discussions so far.

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:20 PM, [email protected] <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Gaby dear as always you have confussed the hell out of me, what do you
> mean by 3D perspective of Overstand here?
>
> On Nov 18, 12:59 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
> > You describe it as understand and overcome. Once more I would like to
> > mention the 3D perspective of  'overstand' in this context.
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 1:08 PM, [email protected] <
> >
> >
> >
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > This is all true Allan, and I guess some may argue that such choice
> > > limited by your enviroment and and experiance is no choice at all.  I
> > > would argue though that it is more than possible to overcome the
> > > restrictions of your enviroment and experiances in the making of who
> > > you are(or who you want to be).
> >
> > > On Nov 18, 11:23 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > To me everyone has choice and our environment and experience play
> major
> > > > roles,, but each person have an total free will choice in their
> actions,
> > > > even if they do not like the consequences am extreme example would
> be:
> > > 'cost
> > > > you the lives of your family and loved ones if you chose the right
> > > thing,'
> > > > you still have the choice like it or not.
> > > > You make your choices based on your values which are a product of you
> > > > experience and environment.
> > > > Allan
> >
> > > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:02 AM, [email protected] <
> >
> > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Ohh how I disagree with this.
> >
> > > > > It is clear that who we are, our very personalities are made from
> not
> > > > > only our experiances but our enviroment.  Are we really not free
> > > > > though to make of ourselves something other than what we are?
> >
> > > > > Yes yes of course we are.  The key is understanding, if we can
> > > > > understand what in our lives has made us  'Us' then we can surly
> > > > > change  any mannor we wish.  Of course this must be true or things
> > > > > like cognative therapy would just not work.
> >
> > > > > On Nov 16, 3:29 pm, RP <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > Man is bound by his actions and bound to his experiences.
> Whatever
> > > > > > actions have to be done man is bound by them , as also whatever
> > > > > > experiences he undergoes he is bound to them. People say
> marriages
> > > are
> > > > > > made in heaven , I say every action and every experience is
> destined
> > > > > > in heaven. In big things we are able to accept bondage but in
> small
> > > > > > things we think we are free , we are able to accept the
> importance of
> > > > > > our genes as also our environment , but our reason finds it hard
> to
> > > > > > understand and accept complete bondage.
> >
> > > > --
> > > >  (
> > > >   )
> > > > I_D Allan
> >
> > > > Be Paranoid.
> > > > God is always building a better idiot!!!- Hide quoted text -
> >
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