You are always welcome in my home Francis.
Allan

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 3:00 PM, frantheman <[email protected]>wrote:

> Well, rigsy, your comment has finally had the (questionable) effect of
> getting me back posting here! :-)
>
> I really don't see the problem with Facebook - as such. FB is neutral;
> it's a communication platform - in that sense, a typical internet
> application. The problems are the uses to which people put it. If they
> want to spend their time taking care of virtual farms and answering
> inane questions about their "friends," then that's their privilege.
> Personally, I find it useful as a tool to keep in touch with family
> and friends I have scattered around the world. (It's also good for
> reminding me about peoples' birthdays - something I used to be very
> bad at!)
>
> I've been thinking about this whole "real" vs. "virtual" issue on and
> off for quite a while now. Observing my own life, I'm tending more and
> more to simply reject the distinction. I've got one life and I live it
> in all sorts of situations, on all sorts of levels, with all sorts of
> different - wait for it, here comes a horrible "in"-word -
> communities, most of which are overlapping in ways, just to make
> everything more deliciously complex. And it's dynamic, in movement,
> anyway.
>
> Let me give an example. Eighteen months ago I spent a large part of
> the time I spent on-line here at "Minds Eye." Things have moved on
> since and (in common with many others, if you look at the statistical
> development over the past two years here) today I spend relatively
> little time here (although I still read nearly everything posted
> here). There are a number of reasons for this. In a development which
> I regard as being largely coincidental many of those who used to be
> heavily engaged (and with whom I was personally more closely engaged)
> here started doing other things around the same time. In my own case,
> I started blogging; according to the concept which I wanted to explore
> for myself, this means writing in excess of 2000 words weekly which
> involves quite a demand on the time available to me for other things,
> including ME. Some others have gone the same way, Neil (Archytas), for
> example, is also blogging intensively (http://
> allcoppedout.wordpress.com/). Others are doing various other things.
>
> This, however, does not mean that I have lost contact with them.
> Ornamentalmind, Lee and Don Johnson spend a lot of time on Gravity -
> oops, it's now called http://www.convo.io/. Vam also posts regularly
> there and does a lot of other stuff too. Although I'm not on reddit, I
> know Chris spends a lot of time there. Molly is also blogging and
> doing other stuff. Ian Pollard is quite involved in a family phase.
>
> Facebook allows me to stay in touch with all of them (and others, like
> Gabby as well) - and I do. As life goes on, there's also a developing
> pleasant interaction between "virtual" and "real" life - Allan (iam
> deheretic) have already met and I hope to meet him again, and, if my
> plans work out, I'll be meeting Vam for a hike in the Himalayas in
> autumn.
>
> Form on the internet changes quickly - I have no idea what will be on
> offer and happening by the end of 2012 (if the world hasn't ended by
> then :-)) But issues, questions and, above all, people remain
> basically the same - and that's what really important. Over a number
> of years I have made good friends at Minds Eye and these friendships
> have proved meaningful enough to survive and develop even when we
> don't use ME as a platform for interaction much any more. FB is one
> more tool which helps - even if I often get angry at it about lots of
> different issues.
>
> Francis
>
> On 3 Jan., 15:29, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > You are kidding! I think Facebook is another pathetic example of our
> > psychotic world! The idea is not new- it used to be hawked as the
> > Communion of Souls by the Catholics or the old popularity contest.
> > It's like Lonely Hearts with "x" number of buddies in similar straits
> > or collecting friends like Green Stamps- in the past- to redeem for a
> > catalog item. How ephemeral life has become- even our finances are
> > blithe spirits! Well, Goldman Sachs has just plunked down some dough
> > for Facebook which is a great indication of its future demise! Have
> > you considered this constant agitation via tech and media will wear
> > out the human brain and make interpersonal/real body encounters
> > obsolete? The NYTimes is also hawking the "Me marriage" as the new
> > paradigm so life gets goofier everyday,imho. Anyway, read some of the
> > great comments about GS via the NYTimes- at least I feel I have my
> > head screwed on properly! :-)
> >
> > On Jan 3, 4:11 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > To my friend minds eye
> > > I decided to get rid or the people on facebook I have nothing with in
> common
> > > with, ,, Please check your facebook and if I removed you by accident
>  please
> > > let me know and I will place you back on my list..
> > > I like following members of minds eye on face book
> > > Sincerely
> > > Allan
> > > --
> > >  (
> > >   )
> > > I_D Allan
> >
> > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
> > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
>



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I_D Allan

If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,

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