I couldn't link to this, gabby. Well, I think I am part of a dinosaur group of women who did not freak out being more traditional though wives/mothers always worked, one could say. It changed as a model during the woman's movement and a good deal was based on not getting dumped with no dough after x number of years of marriage. Some- like Betty Friedan- were upset they had given up their professional chances by being a wife and mother. There were other ways I saw women protect themselves via part-time work and second mortgages, debt and constant remodeling so the women were more realistic about a man's loyalty. Some professional women quit work during periods of having and raising children- others hired nannies or took advantage of school programs to babysit their children. Some women just hate being home and faint without something on the calendar everyday. It is also pretty much impossible to live on one salary anymore. So there are really a multitude of reasons and situations why marriage has changed and much is positive though often women carry a dual role anyway. My neighborhood has seen the whole cycle from live-in help to stay-at- home moms to professional wives.
On Jan 6, 4:33 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > Interesting that you slide back to the donnadonne time instead of > answering my present questions. That's vam's technique also. Next time > you might want to go even further back and you'll find gabbydott > before she got banned for lifetime from this group. > > Now, I followed rigsey's advise and waited a good 24 hours before > replying. The adding and the subtraction business that I criticize in > regards of relational matters have not disappeared in the meantime. > However, this train-your-partner-to-make-yourself-a-better-American- > wife that I found in this NYTimes article (http://www.nytimes.com/ > 2006/06/25/fashion/25love.html) to me still is the logical predecessor > for this sculpture-your-life by self-expansion. What had been > subtracted in the shadow world by refusal of emotional mirroring and > verbalization is now elsewhere and here am I expanding further... If > this is the logic, Molly, then this would help me understand American > problems better. That's why I asked. > > On 4 Jan., 12:26, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > true to form, Donna, finding argument a lesson in meaningful > > dialogue... > > > On Jan 4, 5:50 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Molly, in order to enter a meaningful dialogue with Rigsy, it might be > > > worth > > > acknowledging that the thesis of this article > > > (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/02/weekinreview/02parkerpope.html) might > > > lie > > > in what is described there as "a process called "self-expansion."" Can you > > > see that there would be a connection to her Facebook rant then? Or would > > > this be a too unAmerican approach for it doesn't keep the arguments > > > clearly > > > apart? > > > > On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > The thesis the article: “If your partner is helping you become a > > > > better person, you become happier and more satisfied in the > > > > relationship.” I fail to see a problem with that. > > > > > On Jan 3, 9:29 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > You are kidding! I think Facebook is another pathetic example of our > > > > > psychotic world! The idea is not new- it used to be hawked as the > > > > > Communion of Souls by the Catholics or the old popularity contest. > > > > > It's like Lonely Hearts with "x" number of buddies in similar straits > > > > > or collecting friends like Green Stamps- in the past- to redeem for a > > > > > catalog item. How ephemeral life has become- even our finances are > > > > > blithe spirits! Well, Goldman Sachs has just plunked down some dough > > > > > for Facebook which is a great indication of its future demise! Have > > > > > you considered this constant agitation via tech and media will wear > > > > > out the human brain and make interpersonal/real body encounters > > > > > obsolete? The NYTimes is also hawking the "Me marriage" as the new > > > > > paradigm so life gets goofier everyday,imho. Anyway, read some of the > > > > > great comments about GS via the NYTimes- at least I feel I have my > > > > > head screwed on properly! :-) > > > > > > On Jan 3, 4:11 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > To my friend minds eye > > > > > > I decided to get rid or the people on facebook I have nothing with > > > > > > in > > > > common > > > > > > with, ,, Please check your facebook and if I removed you by accident > > > > please > > > > > > let me know and I will place you back on my list.. > > > > > > I like following members of minds eye on face book > > > > > > Sincerely > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > -- > > > > > > ( > > > > > > ) > > > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
