It sounds like there are the seeds of an interesting discussion in this but I don't really care to be drawn into an ongoing feud.
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 6:43 AM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > Let me try to show you by defining this Google group "Minds Eye" as our > common reality. It comes in the form of the English language. Now the > English language is not my native language, which qualifies me for not > having been exposed to a prescriptive moral when it comes to violating > innate English language principles and rules. There is no shadow in that > area that I need to be shown to learn to embrace. Coming from a German > background, a statement from Chris in which he doesn't reflect his role in > this community and the impact he has had to shape the present form of it - > only saying: I'm out of it, it doesn't matter to me, it's your community - > is like me here in Berlin saying: Hitler was not German, he was Austrian > (check his birth certificate for factual evidence) therefore you Austrians > are the root of all evil, it doesn't matter to me. Coming back to viewing > the prescriptive power of language at work, note how Chris has established > structures in his new/old project in which he alone controls the grammar of > the site and the grammar of the foreign content. The grammar of a language > is its bones with the words as the surrounding flesh - it's not the dark > shadow that you can make disappear by hanging the lamp right above your > head. And yet Chris has never avoided an open argument with me over what the > world should like, which is why he will remain my American hero, and Orn and > Molly cowards. > > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Chuck Bowling < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> What is a prescriptive moral? >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 3:57 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Where does that leave the prescriptive moral which I find is really under >>> discussion here? >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Chuck Bowling < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> The term “morality” can be used either >>>> >>>> 1. descriptively to refer to some codes of conduct put forward by a >>>> society or, >>>> 1. some other group, such as a religion, or >>>> 2. accepted by an individual for her own behavior or >>>> 2. normatively to refer to a code of conduct that, given specified >>>> conditions, would be put forward by all rational persons. >>>> >>>> The above definition of morality was taken from the Standford >>>> Encyclopedia of Philosophy. >>>> >>>> It seems to me that while the interpretation of the individual may be >>>> subjective, the overall goal of a code of conduct is to objectify >>>> behavioral >>>> expectations within the group or society. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 6:14 AM, [email protected] < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> In short then a flawed human is flawed only on measures of subjective >>>>> morality. I contend that there exists no such thing as objective >>>>> morality. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
