TTS, I suggest that this isn't an either/or issue. Time as we perceive
it can be both. While in any ultimate sense, there is no time most of
us do wear watches and/or use clocks. It is a matter of level of
perception and we are able to perceive from more than one level at a
time.

On May 3, 12:55 am, the taoist shaman <[email protected]> wrote:
> is time real or an illusion created by change ?   if indeed time is an
> illusion created by change shurely this must have meaning, some
> ramification on , at the least, the way we preceive ourselves and our
> universe to which we are a part .  if so what is the effect of this
> altered preception?

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