We have one mortal life but our spirit lives on through our works and relationships. Our body is like the transport that our spirit drives. Why then, would God be lonely and create Adam and Eve in the flesh? What did he lack with the angels? All myth, of course.
On May 23, 10:46 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > All matter and all individualities are emanations from the One Self > and it is in the nature of emanations to be dualistic. I know it hurts > our pride to accept that we are mortals and have only this life , but > if we change our perceptions a little and identify ourselves with the > One Self instead of this body, then we would be having the right > perspective and really be the One and only Atman. > > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 5:31 PM, [email protected] > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think perception is route to realisation perhaps. > > > Perception first, followed by evidance that such perceptions are valid > > (if only subjectily in some cases) leading to realisations. > > > As to the Blake quote. > > > My and my oldest son where having a convo last night, I can't really > > recall what it was about, but I asked him if he thought it at all > > possible that a 'thing' can act outside of it's 'nature'. > > > Perhaps it is the nature of man to have blinkered perceptions. Like > > the fly dog visualy percives in black an white, perhaps human kind > > simply cannot percive any other realms than it is capable of? > > > On May 21, 12:12 pm, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I see your point, a good one too. At what point does perception > >> become realization. But I would say that there is much more to > >> perception than sensory perception. As William Blake pointed out: "If > >> the doors of perception were cleansed every thing would appear to man > >> as it is, infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all > >> things through narrow chinks of his cavern."[ > > >> On May 19, 7:19 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > > >> > Hey Molly, > > >> > Is such a thing truely a perception or a realisation? > > >> > I used to live with a bloke who is colour blind, we rented our place > >> > from two lesbians, and so his perception of the colour of his bedroom > >> > was grey. The bedroom was to my eyes coloured pink, but he knows that > >> > he is colour blind and although not sure of what colour I saw (until > >> > he asked me) he realised that his perception was not correct. > > >> > So we can have a realiastion that our perceptions may not be correct. > > >> > On May 19, 12:09 pm, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > How is it possible, from a non dual perspective, to perceive the world > >> > > as dualistic in nature, and thus an illusion (and separate from > >> > > self)? By definition, this view would remain dualistic. I do think it > >> > > true that how we view the world forms our experience. From a > >> > > dualistic view, some are right, some are wrong. From a non dual view, > >> > > all views are the One/many paradox that is One. How we view (and > >> > > experience) birth and death changes as we change. From a non dual > >> > > perspective, they are only states of transformation and not a > >> > > beginning or end. > > >> > > On May 17, 2:07 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > In duality there is the relationship of the observer and the observed > >> > > > , the knower and the known , that is , there are two. In Non-Duality > >> > > > there is only One and the world which is dualistic in nature , > >> > > > remains > >> > > > what it is , just an illusion - i.e. subject to birth and death. God > >> > > > ,Reality or Atman is Non-Dual and duality is just its expression.- > >> > > > Hide quoted text - > > >> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
