Rights are attained by the "winners". By the French mob or the
powerful barons or the industrial North in our Civil War...then there
are our Indian Wars which are a complete disgrace!

On Jun 1, 8:56 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Ohhh I'll get to reading that when I find the time.  So without having
> read it here is what I think.
>
> There are no natural human rights, theer are no natural rights at all
> save those that are granted or taken.
>
> Our Human Rights at this stage are both taken and granted and are in a
> state of evolution.
>
> What do I mean by taken and granted?
>
> An example of rights taken would be historical examples.  The French
> and American revolutions, the siging of the Magna Carter. These are
> rigths by which the people felt agrived enough to fight for.
>
> Freedom in other words, but a right that is taken can also be taken in
> turn.
>
> A right that is granted, would be laws and legislation granted to a
> citizen by a body, like a goverment, or the European Court of Human
> Rights.
>
> On Jun 1, 2:37 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
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>
> >http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/29/are-there-natural-hum...
>
> > I started to read the comments which are lively but I need breakfast...- 
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