Progress marches on rigsy, it is an unfortunate situation to find oneself in the path of the mob (borrowing the term) with convictions that run deeper than the quick dollar. Not much makes sense and it is very tiring, how can politicians justify taxing people off their properties in the interests of progress during a recession(?), it sounds like another land grab operation. Politicians are doing a poor job of justifying their own existence, I am thinking we need to trim the fat when the country is in decline and our representatives are bartering for their own purse with the product of our labors, against the interests of the people. This, after decades of weak promotion and bleak defense in the face of an insurmountable opponent- big business. The golden years are gone, there has been no loyalty from business or Washington, it is time to enter a dual economy for our own sake. We can call it Perpetual Growth vs Humanism or something.

On 6/5/2011 2:18 AM, rigsy03 wrote:
Rights are attained by the "winners". By the French mob or the
powerful barons or the industrial North in our Civil War...then there
are our Indian Wars which are a complete disgrace!

On Jun 1, 8:56 am, "[email protected]"<[email protected]>
wrote:
Ohhh I'll get to reading that when I find the time.  So without having
read it here is what I think.

There are no natural human rights, theer are no natural rights at all
save those that are granted or taken.

Our Human Rights at this stage are both taken and granted and are in a
state of evolution.

What do I mean by taken and granted?

An example of rights taken would be historical examples.  The French
and American revolutions, the siging of the Magna Carter. These are
rigths by which the people felt agrived enough to fight for.

Freedom in other words, but a right that is taken can also be taken in
turn.

A right that is granted, would be laws and legislation granted to a
citizen by a body, like a goverment, or the European Court of Human
Rights.

On Jun 1, 2:37 pm, rigsy03<[email protected]>  wrote:



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