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On Jul 12, 12:56 pm, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't agree with any of it. But I will say that taking the path to > awareness through the mental body is one of the most difficult paths. > I wish you luck on it. > > Enlightenment is a state of awareness - a moment of awareness where > one is fully realized? > > attained through concentration or substance - while both can point a > direction, neither can provide a vehicle > > it is the mind that is aware - if you are witnessing, or "aware" of > the contents of you mind, what part of you is that? There is more > than the mind in each and every one of us > > the mind is finite - not sure about that, in fact, I seriously doubt > it > > whatever is aware is also finite - no again. Although I can see how > your linear logic gets you there. Again, a mental exercise that comes > up short > > God-state cannot be experience only understood - so I take it you have > not had the experience, think you understand it, and assume it is the > same for everyone > > my reason is...subject to my limitations - this, I agree with! > > On Jul 11, 2:12 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The state of enlightenment , or self-realization , is simply a state > > of awareness like the dream -state or deep-sleep , and can be attained > > through concentration or substance - use. It is the mind which is > > aware and as the mind is finite , whatever it is aware of is also > > finite. The very fact that the so-called transcendental state can be > > experienced through use of entheogens casts a doubt about its > > spiritual nature. A person experiences such a state and when he comes > > out of it is just his ordinary self. God-state cannot be experienced > > by any being as it is beyond experience and can only be understood. We > > find it difficult to accept that we are mortal and hence believe in > > re-incarnation etc. The fact is that the " I " has nowhere to go on > > the death of the organism , it is simply an attribute of life and is > > no more on the death of the body , and is thus just an " illusion " . > > This is , of course , my reading of the matter and can be erroneous as > > my reason is not infallible and is subject to my limitations.- Hide quoted > > text - > > - Show quoted text -
