What kind of shape are these pub creatures you shanghai-ed in? Do they still live at home with "mum"? :-) Am surprised at your choice. Female hockey is tough- snowboarding- skateboarding- no meek sisters in several sports. Body strengths might improve and compete better with diet and training.
Women bear life into the world. Would men have a 10 pound stone and water sac inserted for months on end? Think not. Pretty faces also work for women who have them. Also, high birth rates influence politics and history--demographics, immigrations. Am cleaning out some old printouts and you might be interested in this but maybe not. "Freud and the Fundamentalist Urge" By Mark Edmundson http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/30/wwln_lede.html On Jul 20, 4:29 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > There was once "philosophy" that all a woman could offer society was > her ability to grow a baby. The winners of the Women's Soccer World > Cup would lose to a pub side of men given 6 weeks training (my guess > is true). So what do women offer? Once we get into "reasoning" like > this we might wonder what gets into some individual consciousness and > look at what it is given what can be there. Most gender difference > work is fiction. Around 10% of both sexes seem to structure brain > work like the opposite norm. What matters is a presumption of public > equality. The dross that's around assumes soccer (etc.) has value. > But how did such stuff come into existence? Pretty faces still work > on me - doesn't make them much to do with how I otherwise think about > women, I believe the reasons are broadly 'out there' rather than in > 'knee jerk' 'in here'. > > On Jul 20, 8:59 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Addition: > > > "A Gloom of her Own" Interview by Deborah > > Solomonhttp://www,nytimes.com/2004/11/21/magazine/21QUESTIONS.html > > > Jelinek quotes: > > > (Sexual politics)"I describe the relationship between man and woman as > > a Hegelian relationship between master and slave. As long as men are > > able to increase their sexual value through work, fame or wealth, > > while women are only powerful through their body, beauty and youth, > > nothing will change. > > > (Outdated stereotypes) "A woman who becomes famous through her work > > reduces her erotic value. A woman is permitted to chat or babble, but > > speaking in public with authority is still the greatest transgression" > > > "Iron my shirt"? or Ovid? :-) > > > On Jul 17, 7:27 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I can't watch Dr. Phil. > > > > I like the word "echoes"- the cure is to consider the source- > > > eventually. > > > > Re natural tendencies, we are lucky if we have an enviornment that > > > brings out the best in us. > > > > On Jul 16, 8:56 am, Tony Orlow <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > That's true, Rigsy. I guess what I was thinking was more in terms of > > > > dealing with patterns of thought and behavior that adversely affect > > > > our lives, like obsessions, phobias, anxiety, depression, etc. For > > > > someone to be scared of a picture of a frog (I saw that on Dr Phil) is > > > > ridiculous, but such phobias can be dealt with through desensitization > > > > in stages. Likewise, I've found that depression usually comes from > > > > internal echoes of self-deprecation, probably developed through > > > > experience of deprecation from the outside, and training yourself to > > > > chase such thoughts away is key. > > > > > We all reflect our natural tendencies, in the context of our > > > > environment, right? > > > > > Peace, > > > > > Tony > > > > > On Jul 16, 7:45 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > True- we can understand our memories,etc. differently as we mature- > > > > > but, they could be worse than our childhood understanding! Who really > > > > > determines the logic of our thought patterns is of considerable > > > > > importance- we can be brainwashed by religion, family, society, etc. > > > > > > On Jul 15, 6:36 am, Tony Orlow <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Rigsy - > > > > > > > I don't think we can expunge things from our memory, and I think > > > > > > trying to do so may result in some discconnects that make feelings > > > > > > or > > > > > > reactions "inexplicable". On the other hand, associations that are > > > > > > subconsciously established in our memories may be sound and useful, > > > > > > or > > > > > > may be unfortunate accidents resulting in either irrational fears or > > > > > > irrational hopes. Those kind of associations can be turned around > > > > > > with > > > > > > work, largely by applying our logical level of thinking to the > > > > > > problem. Logic is there partly to check our emotions and confirm > > > > > > whether what we feel makes sense or not. The level of our abstract > > > > > > logical ability is really all that separates us from the other > > > > > > animals, and I think it makes sense to cultivate it as much as > > > > > > possible, without sacrificing our emotions and becoming Mr. Spock. > > > > > > Emotions generally are based in some reality, and it's good to > > > > > > follow > > > > > > your intuition, but that involves bringing our thoughts and feelings > > > > > > into harmony with each other, so we're not fighting ourselves. > > > > > > > Peace, > > > > > > > Tony > > > > > > > On Jul 15, 7:04 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Thank you, Tony and Paradox. > > > > > > > > Except we can clean up our hard drive! > > > > > > > > Maybe I should have said "reactions" rather than moods- esp. since > > > > > > > females have the rep of being moody creatures. I'm not sure if it > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > memory or the sc that is triggered by irrational associations. > > > > > > > > On Jul 15, 3:22 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Not as familiar with the terrain regarding imagination and > > > > > > > > creativity, > > > > > > > > rigsy; but some thoughts; imagination probably employs the same > > > > > > > > object > > > > > > > > representation and manipulation routines as event "simulation", > > > > > > > > certainly occupies the same higher order region; the process is > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > less well tethered; an analogy that comes to mind is that of > > > > > > > > the rider > > > > > > > > whose handling on the reins becomes more adept the more > > > > > > > > confident he/ > > > > > > > > she becomes, and the more conditioned the horse gets over time. > > > > > > > > > Creativity is more difficult to pin down; my intuitive sense is > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > it's probably defined in the versatility of transition of > > > > > > > > isomorphic > > > > > > > > brain "states"; so its not so much a "discrete" attribute, but > > > > > > > > more a > > > > > > > > "bell curve" function. > > > > > > > > > Difficult to say about unexplained moods; could be the result of > > > > > > > > chemical or homeostatic imbalances, tensions, unresolved mental > > > > > > > > phenomena, or any of a long list of things really; what do you > > > > > > > > think? > > > > > > > > > On Jul 14, 12:46 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yes- that is too technical for me. :-) I see the sc as the > > > > > > > > > hidden > > > > > > > > > currents of a river- at least this morning that's my view. > > > > > > > > > Where do > > > > > > > > > you think imagination and creativity spring from? Or > > > > > > > > > unexplainable > > > > > > > > > moods? Or the irrational? Don't be too technical, please. > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 14, 3:36 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting psychoanalytic approach; i'm sort of a little > > > > > > > > > > closer to > > > > > > > > > > the "technical" school; seems to me that dreams and > > > > > > > > > > phantasies are > > > > > > > > > > pretty much the same "stuff" as conscious thought, but > > > > > > > > > > without the > > > > > > > > > > coherence, constraints, and "echolocation" of input, > > > > > > > > > > cognition, and > > > > > > > > > > the autobiographical self; in that sense, we think (neural > > > > > > > > > > mapping) > > > > > > > > > > pretty much 24/7, conscious, subconscious, or otherwise; > > > > > > > > > > it's just so > > > > > > > > > > much more elegant when we're conscious, or daydreaming, > > > > > > > > > > curiously :). > > > > > > > > > > > Re the "great conductor"; in this great cauldron of > > > > > > > > > > distributed > > > > > > > > > > mapping, something has to "direct" and prioritise > > > > > > > > > > attention; that's > > > > > > > > > > the job of dispositional affect (value), or emotion, > > > > > > > > > > through amygdala, > > > > > > > > > > hippocampus, and associated wide area networks. Antonio > > > > > > > > > > Damasio has > > > > > > > > > > produced some very interesting, very readable and easily > > > > > > > > > > accessible > > > > > > > > > > works in this area. > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 13, 1:51 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The "great conductor" to where? The sc may color our > > > > > > > > > > > thoughts and > > > > > > > > > > > actions but I have a problem giving it a thought process > > > > > > > > > > > similar to > > > > > > > > > > > the ego or super-ego. The fact that we cannot control our > > > > > > > > > > > sc makes us > > > > > > > > > > > want to control it- it can be dangerous or embarassing or > > > > > > > > > > > distracting, > > > > > > > > > > > for instance. I do think it adds a dramatic complexity to > > > > > > > > > > > our thoughts > > > > > > > > > > > and actions- esp. those "Freudian slips"! :-) Another > > > > > > > > > > > possibilty is > > > > > > > > > > > that the sc is a warehouse for our unresolved selves that > > > > > > > > > > > pitch and > > > > > > > > > > > twist in our minds during dreams or daydreams and > > > > > > > > > > > sometimes influence > > > > > > > > > > > solutions by interrupting logic, problem solving, > > > > > > > > > > > comprehension or > > > > > > > > > > > relationships. It may also serve the purpose of keeping > > > > > > > > > > > us honest- > > > > > > > > > > > somehow the mind has to find a balance- "acting as if" > > > > > > > > > > > only goes so > > > > > > > > > > > far. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 13, 5:13 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mando, dont forget that our thoughts are also > > > > > > > > > > > > "merely things", and > > > > > > > > > > > > our sub-conscious also "thinks"; "emotion" is the great > > > > > > > > > > > > conductor. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 12, 2:18 pm, Mando <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how are we easily swayed from our thought by merely > > > > > > > > > > > > > things? is that > > > > > > > > > > > > > humans are focused or controlled by the > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub-conscious...- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
