Wow Archytas, that must have been one heck of a strip...10 wickets in 8 balls...amazing.
I used to be a pace opener, with a late outswing starting at middle, seaming just short of a length, four slips, a deep gully/point, and a short square leg; my party trick was the shade slower, fuller, 1 late inswinger of the over, just the trick for back foot raiders like yourself :) Great days indeed...takes me back to a time when i was just 12st or under :) On Jul 31, 10:06 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > I played at a 'tidal club' Para - as far from the sea as you can get > in England, but tidal nonetheless. Very hard to describe the 'tidal' > conditions, but it would all start with the kind of rip-snorter Swanny > got in the current Test. When I was still young enough to bowl chin > music we'd have the other side's batsmen remembering urgent > appointments and driving off without taking their turn. The trick at > these times was to bowl slower and just let the pitch spit the ball at > the poor sod batting. When batting you had to give up playing forward > and only play square of the wicket to get runs - the game was turned > upsidedown. We beat a few county sides on that track thanks to the > 'tide'. The tide seemed to be inspired by using the heavy roller at > tea. Great days. We won a championship on the last day on a tide > pitch after the opposition were 72 for none chasing 80 to win. > > On Jul 31, 9:06 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Sold! I'll take them all! Lol. > > > On Jul 31, 8:35 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > There's a lingerie football league and beach volley ball, etc. > > > Seriously, sports are often a ballet of form and extraordinary display > > > of what the body/mind is capable of. It's real- versus paintings or > > > statues of nudes at a museum. And the horses! :-) > > > > On Jul 30, 7:31 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Err, yeah...might depend on the sport in my case, rigsy :) > > > > > On Jul 30, 8:31 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Also football uniforms. Well, we are admiring bodies and physiques in > > > > > sports, aren't we? :-) > > > > > > On Jul 29, 2:39 pm, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I've always thought that baseball players have an interesting sense > > > > > > of > > > > > > dress style, rigsy; somewhat "hugging"? :) > > > > > > > On Jul 29, 2:21 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > We have baseball. :-) > > > > > > > > On Jul 28, 4:42 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Lol. Yeah, i've seen some innovation in rugby, for sure. > > > > > > > > > Well, cricket is one sport that i am passionate about (at least > > > > > > > > as far > > > > > > > > as i can be passionate about sport). It's at once a game of > > > > > > > > supreme > > > > > > > > patience and incredible reaction speed. You have the batsman > > > > > > > > who, with > > > > > > > > the right "guard" and standing perfectly motionless, is > > > > > > > > practically > > > > > > > > impenetrable, against a bowler and 10 strategically placed > > > > > > > > teammates > > > > > > > > who patiently and cleverly induce the batsman to make a "false" > > > > > > > > stroke > > > > > > > > with ever so subtle changes in the speed, flight, movement, > > > > > > > > trajectory > > > > > > > > and/or spin of the ball. When it happens, it can be a beautiful > > > > > > > > thing :) > > > > > > > > > On Jul 28, 7:23 am, Allan Heretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Until I came to Europe I never was a fan of any sport, since > > > > > > > > > I have become a fan of rugby ,, ever since I watched a man > > > > > > > > > fall on the ball with the other team piled on top. But his > > > > > > > > > legs were sticking out of the pile. So his mates (6) grabbed > > > > > > > > > his legs and used him like a wheel barrow. As for cricket,, I > > > > > > > > > have never gotten it wrapped around my mind. > > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > On 27 jul. 2011, at 17:42, paradox <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I thought that Relativity was pretty revolutionary, > > > > > > > > > > actually; less > > > > > > > > > > "fundamental" than perhaps String Theory, but frame > > > > > > > > > > shifting for sure. > > > > > > > > > > > So, you're a rugby man, eh? I'm more cricketer myself; all > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > physical contact would have strained my control beyond > > > > > > > > > > breaking > > > > > > > > > > point :) > > > > > > > > > > > Btw, your ballet's not at all lacking :) > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 26, 5:35 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> The point, Para, is not that Einstein is bull, but that > > > > > > > > > >> interpreting > > > > > > > > > >> Relativity as 'new physics' always was. I did my dancing > > > > > > > > > >> on the rugby > > > > > > > > > >> field so you can expect my ballet to be clumsy! Chemistry > > > > > > > > > >> is more my > > > > > > > > > >> line, but Ludwig and Snell satisfy me that the 'paradigm' > > > > > > > > > >> stuff is > > > > > > > > > >> wonky. I suspect we are collectively very dumb as an > > > > > > > > > >> alternative to > > > > > > > > > >> enlightenment concepts - most people don't learn much. > > > > > > > > > >> Thus they > > > > > > > > > >> remain prey to the Old One. Indeed, it's the propaganda > > > > > > > > > >> of the Old > > > > > > > > > >> One that prevents enlightened society, aimed as it is at > > > > > > > > > >> the dumb. I > > > > > > > > > >> believe this may be what leaves us with only the worst of > > > > > > > > > >> democracy. > > > > > > > > > >> There has been no enlightenment,only some space developed > > > > > > > > > >> away from > > > > > > > > > >> the old Idols. > > > > > > > > > > >> On Jul 26, 1:01 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>> Not sure of what you mean. Do you want e-books to be > > > > > > > > > >>> controlled in > > > > > > > > > >>> content? Take history, for a long time it was written by > > > > > > > > > >>> the winners/ > > > > > > > > > >>> colonists, etc. until the "losers" started publishing > > > > > > > > > >>> their stories/ > > > > > > > > > >>> recollections. A good example is "Bury My Heart at > > > > > > > > > >>> Wounded Knee". > > > > > > > > > >>> There are countless books/ personal confessionals (St. > > > > > > > > > >>> Augustine, > > > > > > > > > >>> Newman, C.S. Lewis, etc.) that have inspired others- > > > > > > > > > >>> perhaps readied > > > > > > > > > >>> them for a personal journey of their own. The > > > > > > > > > >>> "enlightenment" is not > > > > > > > > > >>> always religious/spiritual- there are the arts of > > > > > > > > > >>> man/women which also > > > > > > > > > >>> inspire an individual/society. There is also propaganda > > > > > > > > > >>> and deceit as > > > > > > > > > >>> a path to power. > > > > > > > > > > >>> On Jul 25, 11:13 am, Allan Heretic <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>> LOL. Yeah I am still here, > > > > > > > > > >>>> Enlightenment is a fascinating subject, to me it always > > > > > > > > > >>>> will be an experience(s) yet there are may book thumpers > > > > > > > > > >>>> thumpers can sight article and books many volumes > > > > > > > > > >>>> justifying what they have to say. When you get > > > > > > > > > >>>> discussing enlightenment you begin discussing personal > > > > > > > > > >>>> experience not that of others. > > > > > > > > > >>>> Putting it simply in my opinion your personal > > > > > > > > > >>>> experiences will stand on their own .. > > > > > > > > > >>>> Allan > > > > > > > > > > >>>> On 25 jul. 2011, at 16:30, paradox > > > > > > > > > >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Thing is archytas, though i dont altogether feel "on > > > > > > > > > >>>>> board" with your > > > > > > > > > >>>>> critical insights, your arguments are resonant and very > > > > > > > > > >>>>> persuasive :) > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Nice pirouette with "optimism" :) > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> You think Einstein's work was "bull"? Steady archytas, > > > > > > > > > >>>>> we have the one > > > > > > > > > >>>>> "heretic" here already...alan? :) > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Thanks for the insights. > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> On Jul 24, 6:12 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> That's more or less what I mean Para - I certainly no > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> rationalist per > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> se. The free rider problem is very complicated > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> though, especially > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> since accumulated wealth is now the major 'player'. I > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> suspect > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> neurocracy and collective stupidity as points for > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> optimism - if we're > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> all planning this mess we're in deep trouble! What > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> may be depressing > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> is that most people wouldn't want better times - we're > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> so used to > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> false promises there are no stories about what we'd be > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> doing in better > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> times. I doubt anything rational is other than what > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> emerges as > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> explanations that have been in dialogue, but you > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> quickly learn, doing > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> science, that most people can't hack doing the > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> observations and > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> measurements, let alone internal scrutiny. Some seem > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> to have developed > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> ways with words (sometime figures) almost at a kind of > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> disjuncture > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> with reality there to witness. I tend to prefer > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> notions like > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> hospitality anbd obligation to ones like charity > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> (Davidson and others > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> in 'radical translation') and stronger notions like > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> communicative > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> action 'extirpating ideology'. We do seem to get left > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> with choice at > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> some point, but these are often overdone as in > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> 'mechanistic Newton > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> versus new physics Einstein' (bull) - people just > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> don't work hard > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> enough. Like Orn I've long been fascinated with > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> 'there must be more > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> than this' - but for me the point is there always is > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> more, along with > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> a lot of disappointment that I'm rarely interested in > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> what others are. > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> On Jul 24, 9:56 am, paradox <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> You're nothing if not passionate, archytas :) > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> You cry when Warrington lose? Archytas my friend, you > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> really ought to > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> get out more :) > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Much of what you say here is good social democratic > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> stuff, though i > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> suspect that a concept of "rational optimism" is > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> something of a > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> misnomer. I admire your optimism, not so sure about > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> the rationality; > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> in Nature, there is no such thing as equality, as you > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> know; and > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> "manufactured" equality only works in rational choice > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> if you fix the > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> "free rider" problem; dont know that we have? In any > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> event, quite > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> asides from the intuitive appeal, how do we know that > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> equality in not > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> one of these "states" that "are inexplicable or > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> cannot be > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> demonstrated", that > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
