Me too! I remembered your name- the long form. We are thinking about Hawaii. It seems very labor intensive. Maybe I will just watch from the veranda! lol
On Aug 3, 4:18 pm, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > That's a wonderful thought but a line I have no idea about. > > I've been to tea plantations in north-east and the coffee plantations > in Mannar and Coorg down south here. They are amazing, beautiful, and > give you the feeling of " This is It !" > > Glad to resume our interaction, Rigsy ! > > On Aug 3, 6:59 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Two of my sons want us to start a coffee plantation. I keep thinking > > of Isak Dinesen/Karen Blixen- "Out of Africa". > > > On Aug 2, 7:06 pm, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Seems everybody else is competent, knowledgeable and certain about > > > matters only " X " may be privy to ! > > > > Today morning, I toyed with the thought... then asked for a cup of > > > coffee instead of the usual tea. It's a matter of fact... I do not > > > remember having coffee as my first cup of the day. > > > > Then, too, I toyed with the thought... and decided to take my car for > > > pollution check today itself, when I could easily have performed the > > > task on any one the next 5 days. > > > > Now, all my contemporaries can show me the research papers, the > > > library full... and can pronounce with all manner of reasoning and > > > rhetoric, their own beliefs and opinions, but the fact that is clear > > > to me, as was then when it happened and now as I recall... is that I > > > did act out of my own free will. > > > > I believe it's everyone's job and responsibility to come to their own > > > understanding and conclusion in such matters, and actually fob off all > > > manner of opinions that ' scientists ' and ' researchers ' are > > > throwing out ... dicting and contradicting, everyday. > > > > I suspect matters are much simpler and immediately accessible to each > > > one of us. > > > > On Aug 2, 10:51 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > "We have access to a technology that would have looked like sorcery in > > > > Descartes's day: the ability to peer inside someone's head and read > > > > their thoughts. Unfortunately, that doesn't take us any nearer to > > > > knowing whether they are sentient. "Even if you measure brainwaves, > > > > you can never know exactly what experience they represent," says > > > > psychologist Bruce Hood at the University of Bristol, UK. If > > > > anything, brain scanning has undermined Descartes's maxim. You, too, > > > > might be a zombie. "I happen to be one myself," says Stanford > > > > University philosopher Paul Skokowski. "And so, even if you don't > > > > realise it, are you." Skokowski's assertion is based on the belief, > > > > particularly common among neuroscientists who study brain scans, that > > > > we do not have free will. There is no ghost in the machine; our > > > > actions are driven by brain states that lie entirely beyond our > > > > control. "I think, therefore I am" might be an illusion. > > > > So, it may well be that you live in a computer simulation in which you > > > > are the only self-aware creature. I could well be a zombie and so > > > > could you. Have an interesting day." (from a recent New Scientist) > > > > > We range over debates in free will and what it is to be human. So far > > > > we haven't established free will or even that we are not merely > > > > avatars in 'something else's game'. > > > > > I wonder whether there are advantages in considering ourselves as > > > > creatures limited by programming and also capable of it?- Hide quoted > > > > text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
