I'm with you up to a point here RP. Yes God is everywhere internal and external to us.
Yes as the creator we can say that our nature has been planned by God, that is my nature due to all the factors you name here were known by God before even my grand parents were born. But this talk about minds seems a little odd to me, perhaps it is merely your choice of words. How can your mind be both able to control you and yet you still be able to decide what to do? Try this if you would. For a set amount of time, attempt to not pass on to others your perception of knowldge. Can you do it? Yes yes of course you can, then have you shown that you control your mind, not the other way around? Haha yes your confidance shines out mate. I guess ultimatly there is little sense in us carrying this on, except it does help to stretch the old brain muscle huh. On Aug 5, 4:31 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Lee , as I say we are agents of God. God is not someone sitting > outside us , He is there within us , our very Being and we are just a > projection from Him. By his given nature we are moved to do , to act , > to think, to decide and essentially our will is bound to the nature > which He has given us , whether it be genetic , environmental or > innate. We are not using our mind rather it is our mind which is using > us , it is my mind which wants me to pass my perception of knowledge > to you and it is your mind which accepts or rejects it. It is all a > matter of understanding and what I understand you do not , maybe > because a deficiency is on my side but that does not appear to me to > be so and I am confident of my stance and that is why I have been > having this discourse with you for such a long time. > > > > On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > You see my freind this is where to my mind your stance starts to > > become untangled. > > > We have no free will according to you, how then can we then strive for > > anything? > > > If all my choices are not mine but Gods acting through my nature, then > > I can't choose to strive or learn or anything, I can only go where God > > directs me. > > > Who then are you trying to reach with your advice, why offer any > > advice if we have no freedom to choose God or not? > > > In my stance God has granjted us the supreame gift of freedom of > > choice. > > > God says come to me and we get to choose if we do or do not. > > > In your stance God chooses who to 'save' and who to not. > > > All religious text that I have read lead me to the conlusion that my > > stance is the correct one, hahah but I guess you and I will just have > > to believe differantly. > > > On Aug 4, 5:42 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> God has made us partners in His Will and so on gaining knowledge of > >> the real nature of duality and non-duality we should strive to get as > >> near the non-dual as possible , and that is through achieving a > >> calmness of mind. > > >> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > Heh heh RP I just dont get thi at all. > > >> > If we have no will of our own and all we do is the will of God then > >> > how can anybody strive for anything? > > >> > On Jul 26, 7:35 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> I do not say that I have reached a peaceful state , I only say that on > >> >> gaining knowledge of the Truth one should strive to reach a state of > >> >> calmness and peace. By Knowledge I mean a logical conclusion about the > >> >> nature of Reality and not any transcendental experience. > > >> >> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Menfranco Laws <[email protected]> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > Hi, RP Singh; These are indeed words of wisdom when you say: What I > >> >> > feel, think and do is totally bound by the spirit within me and the > >> >> > same is true for everyone else; but then, you assume that you are part > >> >> > of God and therefore everybody should be or feel that they are part of > >> >> > God, so in reality you are saying that God is pandemic in nature and > >> >> > we live within God life force, am I right? > >> >> > But, I have to say that not everybody has reached this peaceful > >> >> > feeling within them selves that you have achieved, I believe that you > >> >> > are one of the few that has this feeling about being part of God and > >> >> > you are blessed, the rest of us just think that we may not be worthy > >> >> > enough of being part of God, therefore during our lives we are trying > >> >> > to achieve what you have achieved for yourself and we hope to > >> >> > understand you fully when we reach our goal. > >> >> > I wish you all the best > >> >> > Menfranco > > >> >> > On Jul 24, 6:25 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> What I feel , think and do is totally bound by the spirit within me > >> >> >> and the same is true for everyone else. So , if I think of God > >> >> >> separate from me I am thinking wrongly ; as our innermost being is > >> >> >> the > >> >> >> same in all and all of us follow his dictates totally there is no > >> >> >> wisdom in worshiping our creator as albeit we are Him. It is > >> >> >> ignorance to worship yourself. God is in all and it is God who does > >> >> >> everything as all our bound totally by Him. We should have a feeling > >> >> >> of love for all as essentially we are one and not harbour enemity for > >> >> >> those of us who are ignorant of the Truth and enjoy hurting others. > >> >> >> When a person knows that all are One then he attains a state of > >> >> >> calmness and if not he should try to achieve that peaceful state. 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