Lee , my deciding to do or not to do is a function of my mind and I am carried along by my mind , I am just a self-sense which has got entangled in all this and it is because of the subtlety of this that to my mind I am free.
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm with you up to a point here RP. > > Yes God is everywhere internal and external to us. > > Yes as the creator we can say that our nature has been planned by God, > that is my nature due to all the factors you name here were known by > God before even my grand parents were born. > > But this talk about minds seems a little odd to me, perhaps it is > merely your choice of words. How can your mind be both able to > control you and yet you still be able to decide what to do? > > Try this if you would. For a set amount of time, attempt to not pass > on to others your perception of knowldge. > > Can you do it? > > Yes yes of course you can, then have you shown that you control your > mind, not the other way around? > > Haha yes your confidance shines out mate. I guess ultimatly there is > little sense in us carrying this on, except it does help to stretch > the old brain muscle huh. > > > > > On Aug 5, 4:31 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> Lee , as I say we are agents of God. God is not someone sitting >> outside us , He is there within us , our very Being and we are just a >> projection from Him. By his given nature we are moved to do , to act , >> to think, to decide and essentially our will is bound to the nature >> which He has given us , whether it be genetic , environmental or >> innate. We are not using our mind rather it is our mind which is using >> us , it is my mind which wants me to pass my perception of knowledge >> to you and it is your mind which accepts or rejects it. It is all a >> matter of understanding and what I understand you do not , maybe >> because a deficiency is on my side but that does not appear to me to >> be so and I am confident of my stance and that is why I have been >> having this discourse with you for such a long time. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: >> > You see my freind this is where to my mind your stance starts to >> > become untangled. >> >> > We have no free will according to you, how then can we then strive for >> > anything? >> >> > If all my choices are not mine but Gods acting through my nature, then >> > I can't choose to strive or learn or anything, I can only go where God >> > directs me. >> >> > Who then are you trying to reach with your advice, why offer any >> > advice if we have no freedom to choose God or not? >> >> > In my stance God has granjted us the supreame gift of freedom of >> > choice. >> >> > God says come to me and we get to choose if we do or do not. >> >> > In your stance God chooses who to 'save' and who to not. >> >> > All religious text that I have read lead me to the conlusion that my >> > stance is the correct one, hahah but I guess you and I will just have >> > to believe differantly. >> >> > On Aug 4, 5:42 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> God has made us partners in His Will and so on gaining knowledge of >> >> the real nature of duality and non-duality we should strive to get as >> >> near the non-dual as possible , and that is through achieving a >> >> calmness of mind. >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> > Heh heh RP I just dont get thi at all. >> >> >> > If we have no will of our own and all we do is the will of God then >> >> > how can anybody strive for anything? >> >> >> > On Jul 26, 7:35 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> I do not say that I have reached a peaceful state , I only say that on >> >> >> gaining knowledge of the Truth one should strive to reach a state of >> >> >> calmness and peace. By Knowledge I mean a logical conclusion about the >> >> >> nature of Reality and not any transcendental experience. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Menfranco Laws <[email protected]> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > Hi, RP Singh; These are indeed words of wisdom when you say: What I >> >> >> > feel, think and do is totally bound by the spirit within me and the >> >> >> > same is true for everyone else; but then, you assume that you are >> >> >> > part >> >> >> > of God and therefore everybody should be or feel that they are part >> >> >> > of >> >> >> > God, so in reality you are saying that God is pandemic in nature and >> >> >> > we live within God life force, am I right? >> >> >> > But, I have to say that not everybody has reached this peaceful >> >> >> > feeling within them selves that you have achieved, I believe that you >> >> >> > are one of the few that has this feeling about being part of God and >> >> >> > you are blessed, the rest of us just think that we may not be worthy >> >> >> > enough of being part of God, therefore during our lives we are trying >> >> >> > to achieve what you have achieved for yourself and we hope to >> >> >> > understand you fully when we reach our goal. >> >> >> > I wish you all the best >> >> >> > Menfranco >> >> >> >> > On Jul 24, 6:25 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> What I feel , think and do is totally bound by the spirit within me >> >> >> >> and the same is true for everyone else. So , if I think of God >> >> >> >> separate from me I am thinking wrongly ; as our innermost being is >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> same in all and all of us follow his dictates totally there is no >> >> >> >> wisdom in worshiping our creator as albeit we are Him. It is >> >> >> >> ignorance to worship yourself. God is in all and it is God who does >> >> >> >> everything as all our bound totally by Him. We should have a feeling >> >> >> >> of love for all as essentially we are one and not harbour enemity >> >> >> >> for >> >> >> >> those of us who are ignorant of the Truth and enjoy hurting others. >> >> >> >> When a person knows that all are One then he attains a state of >> >> >> >> calmness and if not he should try to achieve that peaceful state. >> >> >> >> But >> >> >> >> of course we cannot cut the ties that bind us through this body and >> >> >> >> have a practical outlook.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text -
